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Marathon Runners - Training Schedule Advice

Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:29 pm
So I just found out last night that I got a number for the Boston Marathon this year. This will be my first full marathon so I'm looking into training regiments now but obviously there's s lot of varying theories and schedules out there. Anyone here who has experience with this I would really appreciate some of the Do's and Don'ts you found helpful.

Also, I am running with a charity and did not submit a qualifying time. I realize that not running 26.2 in under 3 hours makes me sub-par in the OT's eyes, and for that I apologize.

And no, I will never put a 26.2 sticker on my car or anywhere else for that matter.

Thanks for the advice.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45721 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

I am running with a charity

When I did this for the Kona marathon, we actually had someone from the charity give us a training schedule and schedule running sessions.

You might want to check into that. Otherwise, just google for training schedules.

Good luck!!
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19419 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:31 pm to
never done it, would love to. Don't know if I could even finish

ETA: had a friend who did it. He actually qualified through NY I think. His goal was sub 3hrs maybe? Idk if thats unattainable or just really aggressive?

He said he barely missed it, and spent the next 2 hours after the race in a ice bath with a case of hieneken.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by usc6158
Member since Feb 2008
35322 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:34 pm to
Boston is simply the best. No other road marathon compares.

There are lots of free training plans online including from Runners World. These are usually a good baseline. Honestly, the biggest thing is not starting out too high with volume and getting injured.

Also, runs lots of hills late in your long runs. From personal experience, Boston beats the crap out of your legs because of the amount of downhill.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32702 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:38 pm to
quote:

Do's

-eat right and plenty when you get into the longer runs. they take a toll on your body.
- stretch A LOT. specifically yout IT band. that hurts a lot of runners.
- get a good pair of shoes that fits you right and your stule of running.
- get a good set of ear phones. long runs get boring.
- there are a lot of 4 or 5 day a week training schedules online.
- take advantage of your rest days. your body needs them.

quote:

Don'ts

- dont over do it in the early stages. hurting yourself early hurts you in the long run too.
- dont use goo packs if you arent accustomed to the in the training. they will likely make your stomach hurt.
- dont eat some super huge meal before the race. stick with the same type of eatingritual you have during your training.


Good Luck
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

Also, runs lots of hills late in your long runs. From personal experience, Boston beats the crap out of your legs because of the amount of downhill.


I haven't worked on hills a lot so that's something I'll have to prepare for. Thanks.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:40 pm to
Thanks this is all great advice.
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:44 pm to
I agree with the Runners World recommendation. The Smart Coach program on that site is great and it's customizable.

quote:

eat right and plenty when you get into the longer runs. they take a toll on your body.
- stretch A LOT. specifically yout IT band. that hurts a lot of runners.
- get a good pair of shoes that fits you right and your stule of running.


yes, yes, and yes.

As far as shoes go, I'd get two pairs and rotate them every other day considering the amount of miles you'll be putting in.

Can't stress the importance of stretching AFTER your run (not before). Stretch the hell out of your hamstrings - they effect your back, your knees as well as your actual hammies.

quote:

take advantage of your rest days. your body needs them


this too!

quote:

- dont use goo packs if you arent accustomed to the in the training. they will likely make your stomach hurt.


you need to get accustomed to these while training. You'll need them during the race.

quote:

- dont eat some super huge meal before the race. stick with the same type of eatingritual you have during your training.


Your big "carbo load" meal needs to be two nights before the race. Eat a good lunch the day before the race and then a light meal the night before the race. You don't want to be racing with a heavy load in your system.

Congrats on getting to run boston!! I would give my left nut to do that. Unfortunately, my potential qualifying days are behind me.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:48 pm to
How do you feel about goo packs vs the gels that are out there now? I would think the gels would be easier to eat while running.

And thanks. I'm really excited to get the chance to run it. I was a spectator last year and it was an awesome experience even doing just that.
Posted by Future_FlexZone
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
284 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:51 pm to
When was your last 10k?

Last half-marathon?

What's your BMI?

you need to decide early if you're going to run it all, or run/walk with the 5-7 hour folks... then your training will be easier to figure out. Most legit training is aiming for sub-4hr, but if you are not an active runner, you'll get injured before getting past month 2. I just had a friend pull up limp on a 5 mile trainer for a 1/2 marathon with tendinitis... ppl don't understand that running is different when training, so be sure to atune your effort to your baseline.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:55 pm to
Last official 10k has been a while but I ran about 7 miles a couple weeks ago.

Last half has been quite a while. A year or so.

BMI was checked a couple months ago and was 12.1. Although after thanksgiving....

I definitely want to run it the whole way through. I am shooting for a time of 3:45. I really want to avoid the injury bug so I'm hoping to learn as much as I can as fast as I can.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted by Burlee
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2006
7324 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

How do you feel about goo packs vs the gels that are out there now? I would think the gels would be easier to eat while running


I'm not sure what you mean by goo packs, but gels are my preferred fuel during the race. There are other options out there (chomps, blocks, etc.) but they are all essentially the same thing in different form. Also, most races provide gel packs at aid stations on the course. I'd check to see what Boston offers and see if those agree with you during training. It's a hell of lot easier than having to carry the gels with you during the race.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:05 pm to
Sorry the brand is called Gu, so I misspelled. The Gu Packs are the only ones that I have tried and they made me a little sick during the run.

How do you like to carry them? I've never run with a belt but I think I'm going to have to start training with one.
Posted by Future_FlexZone
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
284 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:09 pm to
So you run. That's great.

I'd suggest you research some books on amazon. A great one I'm using now is "Run Less, Run Faster" which is good for people who want to avoid running more than 3 times a week. It's great for first time runners, and they have a plan in the book precisely for 3:45 timers.

The first long run in the book is a 13 miler for marathoners. Even Noobs. So, you might start by working your way onto a 1/2 marathon training plan before the 16 week plan for the marathon kicks in. Build you way up from 7m, 8m, 9m, 10m, 11m, 12m, 13m each sunday and then you'll hopefully be ready for the long-arse training that follows
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:11 pm to
Awesome tip thanks. I'm going to order it today.

I am hoping to run 4-5 days a week but between the winters up here and work I may end up taking an extra day off here and there.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38651 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:24 pm to
There will probably be a training group in your area. At the very least, do your once a week long run with them and hopefully they will build up to a 20 miler about 4-6 weeks before Boston. The rest of your runs can be fairly short....7-10 miles or even less if you are feeling tired. Better to take rest time than over do it.
Posted by AbitaFan08
Boston, MA
Member since Apr 2008
26537 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 1:57 pm to
Great idea looking for a group in my area. Seeing as how I live in Boston I can't see how there won't be one somewhere nearby.
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
9337 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 2:00 pm to
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