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Hats Off To The Playoff Committee
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:10 am
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:10 am
What has the media up in arms with the Playoff Committee is the exact same thing that got them up in arms with the BCS, which is that the their rankings don't mirror the rankings of the self-important idiots known as the AP. I applaud the committee, because to my surprise, they're taking their jobs seriously, and ironically they're acting more like computers than what's typical for human polls. The aren't reflexively using head-to-head matchups as a trump card for slotting teams. They aren't punishing teams more for late-season losses than early-season ones. They are taking into consideration which team was at home, and what the weather conditions were. The don't automatically drop teams 8-10 spots if they lose a close game to a quality opponent. And they don't automatically put undefeated teams from the so-called "Power 5 Conferences" ahead of all the one-loss teams. I have to admit to being pleasantly amused by the fact that the Playoff Committee's rankings are a lot closer to the computer rankings than they are to the AP Poll.
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:12 am to trackfan
It's like the NCAA Basketball Tournament debate... expect every week. ESPN sure has made some great coin.
The Twitter melts have been glorious, too.
The Twitter melts have been glorious, too.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:14 am to Billy Mays
One poll and one poll only would stop all the nonsense and justification for moving teams week to week.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:15 am to trackfan
I love seeing the douchebags in the media all butthurt
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:17 am to trackfan
quote:if head-to-head isn't the most important thing to determine the playoff teams, why even have the playoff?
The aren't reflexively using head-to-head matchups as a trump card for slotting teams.
Next Saturday morning - head-to-head doesn't really matter
Playoffs round 1 and then championship game - head-to-head is the only thing that matters
why not just go back to prior to the BCS, and let a committee pick the national champion without a playoff at all? then, they can at least be consistent and not consider head-to-head at all, since the best teams won't even play each other.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:18 am to nicholastiger
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One poll and one poll only would stop all the nonsense and justification for moving teams week to week.
what? The ratings are probably incredible. No way they do that.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:19 am to HeadyBrosevelt
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I love seeing the douchebags in the media all butthurt
Me too.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:22 am to trackfan
Mike Greenberg was in total shock this morning on Mike&Mike with FSU being #4. It was actually pretty funny with him freaking out.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:29 am to hashtag
Meh, it isn't like TCU/Baylor was played at a neutral site, nor is it like TCU lost to Baylor at home.
Hell, if Alabama lost to LSU this year, would LSU be the better team, regardless of the other 11 games they each played? Unless you believe that, you are admitting that head to head is not all that matters.
Personally, I believe you should look at the body of work for both teams, head to head results included. If that means Baylor is in, so be it, but the idea that head to head is the only factor is asinine.
Bottom line is that at this exact moment, without a win over Kansas State, Baylor' resume is lacking compared to TCU. Next week all of this fuss could be unnecessary anyway.
Hell, if Alabama lost to LSU this year, would LSU be the better team, regardless of the other 11 games they each played? Unless you believe that, you are admitting that head to head is not all that matters.
Personally, I believe you should look at the body of work for both teams, head to head results included. If that means Baylor is in, so be it, but the idea that head to head is the only factor is asinine.
Bottom line is that at this exact moment, without a win over Kansas State, Baylor' resume is lacking compared to TCU. Next week all of this fuss could be unnecessary anyway.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:31 am to trackfan
I agree. I think they are going about this entire process exactly the correct way.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:33 am to slackster
quote:If LSU beats Bama, they were better that night. And, that is all that should matter. WTF is wrong with you people. If Missouri dominates the SECCG and Bama gets a lucky call and wins at the end (like the LSU game this year where LSU absolutely dominated the entire game and "proved" that they were the better team 99.9% of the game), is the SEC going to completely ignore the on field result and award Missouri the SEC Championship??? Eff no.
Hell, if Alabama lost to LSU this year, would LSU be the better team, regardless of the other 11 games they each played? Unless you believe that, you are admitting that head to head is not all that matters.
On the field performances have to matter. They have to. If not, what's the point of even playing playoff games? Why do those suddenly matter?
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:36 am to hashtag
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If LSU beats Bama, they were better that night. And, that is all that should matter. WTF is wrong with you people. If Missouri dominates the SECCG and Bama gets a lucky call and wins at the end (like the LSU game this year where LSU absolutely dominated the entire game and "proved" that they were the better team 99.9% of the game), is the SEC going to completely ignore the on field result and award Missouri the SEC Championship??? Eff no.
On the field performances have to matter. They have to. If not, what's the point of even playing playoff games? Why do those suddenly matter?
You're conflating wins and losses with rankings. They are two seperate things.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:38 am to trackfan
quote:Obviously. It is baffling that the end result of a sporting event has less weight than how that team looked. What is the point of playing the games if the winners and losers of those games don't reflect the rankings and determinations of who is the best team?
You're conflating wins and losses with rankings. They are two seperate things.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:46 am to trackfan
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The aren't reflexively using head-to-head matchups as a trump card for slotting teams.
So maybe we'll see the committee running on the field in the post game ceremony in Dallas and award the winning trophy to the losing team.
Awesome!
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:46 am to Hold That Tiger 10
i think if baylor wins and finishes the regular season with the same exact record as TCU and they played all the same teams within the conference, there is no way the committee keeps them out. head to head has to be taken into account.
its not the end all be all because i agree if baylor loses again they arent at the top with TCU. but if everything else is equal, or relatively equal theres no way you cant go to the head to head.
its not the end all be all because i agree if baylor loses again they arent at the top with TCU. but if everything else is equal, or relatively equal theres no way you cant go to the head to head.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:56 am to trackfan
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I applaud the committee, because to my surprise, they're taking their jobs seriously, and ironically they're acting more like computers than what's typical for human polls.
So why not just leave it to the computers. We've come full circle. They will get enough criticism that they will eventually add more members and start mirroring the polls. Back to the pre-BCS poll days...
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:16 am to stat19
This Baylor/TCU talk is a week to early. Beat Kansas State and we'll see where it shakes out.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:43 am to trackfan
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They aren't punishing teams more for late-season losses than early-season ones.
Only thing that bothers me. A team who has a loss in week 10 is different than a team losing in week 3. Teams develop, and a team who losses later didn't develop as well as a team who only lost once early
Cowherd put it well this morning. The teams in the top 4 have 0 or 1 loss, and that loss is not a bad loss.
WVU and VT are anchors, fairly or not, no matter when those games were played
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:33 am to Buckeye06
Someone please explain to me why an undefeated Florida st team is being pushed back. I don't care either way, just want to know.
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:53 am to trackfan
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What has the media up in arms with the Playoff Committee is the exact same thing that got them up in arms with the BCS, which is that the their rankings don't mirror the rankings of the self-important idiots known as the AP. I applaud the committee, because to my surprise, they're taking their jobs seriously, and ironically they're acting more like computers than what's typical for human polls. The aren't reflexively using head-to-head matchups as a trump card for slotting teams. They aren't punishing teams more for late-season losses than early-season ones. They are taking into consideration which team was at home, and what the weather conditions were. The don't automatically drop teams 8-10 spots if they lose a close game to a quality opponent. And they don't automatically put undefeated teams from the so-called "Power 5 Conferences" ahead of all the one-loss teams. I have to admit to being pleasantly amused by the fact that the Playoff Committee's rankings are a lot closer to the computer rankings than they are to the AP Poll.
Thank you for the great post. I agree completely that many of the worst aspects of the AP and Coach's Polls seem to be gone.
I'm not sure I believed it was going to actually happen either no matter what they said before the season.
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