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A poll: internet sales tax

Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:57 am
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:57 am
Right now the state of La. asks you to pay sales tax on all your internet purchases during the year. It's on your income tax form but it's voluntary. I would assume compliance is near Zero.

This morning (and during the debate) Mary Landrieu said that if she is elected she will sponsor a bill that creates an enforcement mechanism forcing you to pay the sales tax under penalty of law. She doesn't explain how your internet sales would be verified but let's assume it's electronically possible.

The benefit of the bill is increased revenue for the state govts.

The question... are you in favor of this proposal?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:59 am to
If it was part of the fair tax, yes.
Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:59 am to
quote:

The question... are you in favor of this proposal?


I am actually in favor of making it fair by removing sales tax from Brick & Mortar Stores. If we want to have a sales tax then remove income tax and property tax. We have too many damn taxes.

If we remove the income and property tax I am in favor of enforcing the internet sales tax.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:01 am to
There really is no reason why brick and mortar stores should be taxed while e-commerce shouldn't.
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:04 am to
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There really is no reason why brick and mortar stores should be taxed while e-commerce shouldn't.


I am not sure about that. Brick and mortar uses the services at the local level that online stores do not. BUT I generally agree sales tax should be collected on online purchases.

Posted by lsu13lsu
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:05 am to
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I am not sure about that. Brick and mortar uses the services at the local level that online stores do not.


That is an excellent point.
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:09 am to
quote:

quote:
I am not sure about that. Brick and mortar uses the services at the local level that online stores do not.


That is an excellent point.


But, of course, the sales tax is not a tax on the business. It is a tax on the citizens and as such I do support the taxing of internet sales FOR the relief of taxpayers---not for the enrichment of government. We should roll back the sales tax rates to account for whatever additional revenue collected from an online tax.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:18 am to
So if Acme Dildo Co. in CA sells online to Melveen Slut in La., who keeps the tax money, CA or La.?
Posted by Layabout
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:23 am to
quote:

Brick and mortar uses the services at the local level that online stores do not.

They also provide jobs at the local level and pay property taxes to fund the local services they use. BTW, property taxes in Louisiana fall particularly hard on retail businesses that pay it not only on their real estate and fixtures, but on their inventory as well.
Posted by I B Freeman
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

They also provide jobs at the local level and pay property taxes to fund the local services they use. BTW, property taxes in Louisiana fall particularly hard on retail businesses that pay it not only on their real estate and fixtures, but on their inventory as wel


This is true and I did back off of that in my next post.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:27 am to
quote:

I would assume compliance is near Zero


You definitely assume correct for me.

quote:

Mary Landrieu said that if she is elected she will sponsor a bill that creates an enforcement mechanism forcing you to pay the sales tax under penalty of law.



Although I absolutely loath the current tax code, I have to concede that not paying taxes on internet purchases is technically breaking the law, so we can't complain too much about being required to comply with existing laws.

quote:

The benefit of the bill is increased revenue for the state govts


More money they can piss away? Great...

quote:

The question... are you in favor of this proposal?


For selfish reasons no
Posted by ALWho
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:39 am to
quote:

So if Acme Dildo Co. in CA sells online to Melveen Slut in La., who keeps the tax money, CA or La.?


Well? The taxes collected on the batteries bought at a local store for its use would more than compensate for any loss of a tax not collected on the internet purchase.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:44 am to
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The taxes collected on the batteries bought at a local store


She's old fashion. Just soft rubber with no wires.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:49 am to
quote:

So if Acme Dildo Co. in CA sells online to Melveen Slut in La., who keeps the tax money, CA or La.?


If Acme is headquartered in CA, but the actual order processing/shipping in done in AZ, and you're a LA resident but make the order on a laptop while crossing the MS/AL border, who gets the tax money?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 9:51 am to
quote:

If Acme is headquartered in CA, but the actual order processing/shipping in done in AZ, and you're a LA resident but make the order on a laptop while crossing the MS/AL border, who gets the tax money?


I was trying to keep it simple but your question is actually more realistic.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:03 am to
quote:

If Acme is headquartered in CA, but the actual order processing/shipping in done in AZ, and you're a LA resident but make the order on a laptop while crossing the MS/AL border, who gets the tax money?


The La. income tax form does not specify where the company is located. They are only concerned where the customer is located.
Posted by Asgard Device
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:04 am to
I hate it but it makes sense to pay sales taxes on items purchased on the Internet just like you would at a local retailer.
Posted by ALWho
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:07 am to
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She's old fashion. Just soft rubber with no wires.


It would still need to be cleaned, buying soap or alcohol, speaking of alcohol...I'm sure cigarettes and adult beverages would cum into play. So, paying more into local taxes.
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:08 am to
What if the customer has houses in different states? Could I tell Alabama, "Hey, I paid the sales tax in LA?"
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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112410 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 10:11 am to
I have no idea how enforcement works. That's why the La. law is voluntary. But apparently Mary has a plan. Maybe she's I.T. expert in her spare time.
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