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re: The white racist cop was gonna shoo...oh, wait, he had a bodycam...NEVAMIND
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:56 am to StrongSafety
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:56 am to StrongSafety
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When I got pulled over the other day, and the cops asked me if I had "guns" in the car, was that okay? Is he allowed to have a perceived conceived notion that because of my profile, that I will have x, y, and z?
Well I got pulled over for having expired license plate on my car. The deputy took one look at me and asked, "do you have a gun in your car?" I answered "yes, I do." "it is in the trunk locked in a hard case and the bullets are locked in the glove box." Then he asked if I know why he pulled me over. I said, " I don't know why." His answer was, "you have an expired license plate. " You see I was not profiled before I was pulled over but I was profiled the second he saw me. I was on my way to the hunting lease and wearing my hunting outfit. His question had nothing to do with my skin but with the way I was dressed. It had nothing to do with the fact that I am a Native American.
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 11:06 am
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:05 am to MMauler
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This black firefighter should be fired and brought up on charges and go to prison for filing a false police report. The white cop should sue him for slander.
Why race bait?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:22 am to StrongSafety
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Yes the end of racism will be finalized once blacks, who did not start, perpetrate, glamorize, uphold, and engrain prejudical structures into our countries fabric, will qualm all white racial xenophobia and bias.
Very asisine realm of thought to have IMO.
This is mess that has to be cleaned up by everybody.
Lets solve this problem now. As a prelude, I am a white guy whose best friends include blacks, arabics, whites, and even a couple asians. We all have different religious beliefs but love each other as the brothers that we are. We love our families and hurt the same when our football teams lose.
The problem isn't race, its YOUR bullshite thought process that creates issues where there is none. You show your ignorance when a police officer confronts a possible robbery in action and doesn't have the benefit of hindsight to know that there is no danger. I will side with an officer in that he needs to protect himself in many dangerous situations. He has a responsibility to come home at night to his family and is put in harms way to protect ungrateful people like you.
Here is a clear example where an officer did an excellent and professional job given the circumstances. Yet, he is portrayed as a racist because a man who is exiting a firehouse happens to be black. Instead of defending the officer, you defend the fireman that created a racial issue where there wasnt one.
YOU SIR ARE THE PROBLEM
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:27 am to StrongSafety
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Excused? I gave a reason for why he thought this cop was going to blow his brains out.
This board has a hard time differentiating between excuses and reasons.
Oakland PD also has a notoriously bad reputation within that community as well. Which is all their fault.
Being nervous in the moment is reasonable.
Lying about the situation after the fact when the officer had acted extremely professional and presumably would have destroyed those preconceived notions he entered into the situation with is not reasonable.
You are clearly an educated black man. Yet you are unable to escape the racism narrative and instead justify this action by playing the historical race card yourself.
If the majority of educated black men see situations like this similar to the way you do, we're fricked.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:27 am to StrongSafety
Ben Carson, my hero, stated in his book that he realized that he alone held the power to change his circumstances. At the time, he was living in the Ghettos of Detroit and Boston. It was his attitude that had to change. Once this happened, his perspective changed and he no longer felt poor. He was on his way to becoming an American hero.
Sorry to have to tell you that the problem can only be solved by you and you alone
Sorry to have to tell you that the problem can only be solved by you and you alone
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:44 am to lsusaintsfan4life
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Sorry to have to tell you that the problem can only be solved by you and you alone
If the problem you are talking about is racism, I have a little secret for you. He doesn't want it solved.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:50 am to moneyg
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If the problem you are talking about is racism, I have a little secret for you. He doesn't want it solved
I agree with you. He has a victim mentality that exudes from his core. I am tired of all the BS that is keeping America from moving forward and want to see racism eradicated once and for all. But that would take personal responsibility that people like him refuse to accept. It is easier to blame the boogie man (white guy) for all his problems rather than objectively look at self.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 11:53 am to StrongSafety
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but how can we scold this man for a perception based in reality
because his perception was not based in reality and can easily be argued to be a total lie
Posted on 11/28/14 at 12:03 pm to StrongSafety
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The fireman was wrong
Should have stopped right there.
Now, based on everything I know - the fireman seems like a stand up guy. He sees the door open, figures to go help out. After all, you don't want to leave an open door in Oakland, right?
So, while he's trying to do the right thing a cop shows up trying to do his job. If the fireman would not have been looking for a problem where none existed, this would have been nothing. Nobody was shot or even detained other than very briefly. That cop had no idea who these people were.
He saw the truck, saw the individual in the firehouse, saw the kids and fairly quickly put 2 and 2 together to get 4.
The fireman had the problem here, not the cop.
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a perception based in reality
How long we going to do this? Another 400 years or so, just to make it even? Or should we be glad this didn't turn south, as it could have.
I don't much like cops overreacting or abusing their authority, SS - I really don't. But that didn't happen here - the cop was reasonable. The fireman wasn't, at least afterwards in trying to make it a big racial issue.
If it had been a black cop and a white firefighter, I would be saying exactly the same things here.
Why do I get the feeling you would not give a single f*ck if that were the case?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 12:49 pm to MMauler
There are many times I'd like to say something smart-a to my boss, but I know I can't without jeopardizing my job.
Right or wrong, people should just say," yes sir or no sir" and comply with police if what they ask you to do is lawful. The sooner people learn this, the quicker incidents of police overreach will diminish.
Right or wrong, people should just say," yes sir or no sir" and comply with police if what they ask you to do is lawful. The sooner people learn this, the quicker incidents of police overreach will diminish.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 12:55 pm to StrongSafety
Race baiting again I see. I have been asked every time I have been pulled over if I had any guns in my car. Sell your race hatred elsewhere.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 2:57 pm to KeyserSoze999
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(some might say lie),
Either he is an idiot for saying he thought he was going to be shot, or he is a liar.
Great job of parenting too...
Posted on 11/28/14 at 3:03 pm to StrongSafety
quote:But the policeman also has a perception based in reality. Blacks as a group are more likely to commit murder, rape, and robbery than any other group. So where does that leave us? Two groups acting off of their perceptions every time they meet up.
but how can we scold this man for a perception based in reality
Posted on 11/28/14 at 3:18 pm to MMauler
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/28/14 at 3:45 pm to Revelator
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There are many times I'd like to say something smart-a to my boss, but I know I can't without jeopardizing my job.
Right or wrong, people should just say," yes sir or no sir" and comply with police if what they ask you to do is lawful. The sooner people learn this, the quicker incidents of police overreach will diminish.
Cops aren't your boss, you're their boss.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 3:45 pm to livewire
The problem right now in America is being down for the cause moving the agenda of "white cops vs. blacks" is more important than honesty.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 4:07 pm to StrongSafety
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. How is it our fault that they preconceive us as criminals, and always have?
Perhaps it is because of the FACT that you commit the vast majority of the crimes and always have?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 4:31 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Well, the firefighter didn't lie.
He did. He said the cop was crouched like he was going to shoot. From the video, the cop was never crouched (unless he's 10 feet tall).
From the news story, one would expect the cop to be yelling and shouting. Instead the bodycam shows he was as respectful as any officer could be in such a situation, even apologizing to the fire fighter and his kids afterwards.
At the very least the firefighter has a bias against cops and that colored (:nopun:) his view and retelling of the story.
As more cops are made to wear these bodycams, I believe we'll see more and more of these situations. I'm just wondering how Jesse, Al and the other race pimps will try to play this as a way to create more racial divide.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 4:33 pm to cwill
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Cops aren't your boss, you're their boss.
The next time you see a cop, tell him to go pick up your dry cleaning and see how that goes.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 4:45 pm to StrongSafety
Man I just did some shooting with my brother in law, tried out his new AR-10, talking about getting a Gen 4 Glock and whatnot. Anyways he has a CC license, I'm considering getting one, and told me to make sure if I get pulled over while carrying to go ahead and tell the cop upfront. Because as we both know, they always ask if you have weapons and it's more reassuring to an a-hole cop if you tell him upfront before he asks.
We're both white
We're both white
This post was edited on 11/28/14 at 4:46 pm
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