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The Liar in Chief did it again!!! (Immigration!!)
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:04 am
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:04 am
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He plainly said they would NOT be eligible for these benefits!!!! This fricking liar knows NO LIMITS!!!!
He plainly said they would NOT be eligible for these benefits!!!! This fricking liar knows NO LIMITS!!!!
This post was edited on 11/27/14 at 9:07 am
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Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:06 am to Jim Ignatowski
This fricker has done more to harm this nation than any enemy we have had in the last 100 years!!!!!
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:07 am to Jim Ignatowski
You can add the Democratic party in general.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:09 am to Jim Ignatowski
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:11 am to Jim Ignatowski
If Obama is speaking he is lying or ppl just haven't realized that he doesn't read what he signs so he has no idea what he is doing.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:21 am to Jim Ignatowski
I thought he said they wouldn't be eligible for Obamacare 
However, I see no problem with this outside of his overreach by EO.
Seems reasonable.. Just should not be done by EO, should be voted on by Congress.
However, I see no problem with this outside of his overreach by EO.
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No such "lawfully present" immigrant, however, would be immediately entitled to the benefits because like all Social Security and Medicare recipients they would have to work 10 years to become eligible for retirement payments and health care.
Seems reasonable.. Just should not be done by EO, should be voted on by Congress.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:30 am to Lsut81
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would have to work 10 years to become eligible for retirement payments and health care
The problem is is that most of these people are older. Their benefits will greatly exceed any amount paid into the system.
Posted on 11/27/14 at 9:38 am to WPBTiger
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The problem is is that most of these people are older.
I've seen completely different
I thought this was targeted at children/spouses of people who have come over, most of which are in their 20s/30s/40s
Posted on 11/28/14 at 7:23 am to FightinTigersDammit
The list of incredibly ridiculous stuff coming out of this administration grows longer every day......I have a feeling that the next two years will harm our country beyond repair!!!
Posted on 11/28/14 at 7:53 am to Lsut81
Here's the rub:
Payroll deductions that are made under fake SS numbers, or under numbers of deceased persons, etc., go into a special account at the SSA. I can't remember the name of the fund, but I read about it a couple of years ago.
So, those who have been illegally living and working here can have all the prior payments they've made transferred to their new SS# account. They'll be at 10 years in no time, if not already past the 10 year mark.
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because like all Social Security and Medicare recipients they would have to work 10 years to become eligible for retirement payments and health care.
Payroll deductions that are made under fake SS numbers, or under numbers of deceased persons, etc., go into a special account at the SSA. I can't remember the name of the fund, but I read about it a couple of years ago.
So, those who have been illegally living and working here can have all the prior payments they've made transferred to their new SS# account. They'll be at 10 years in no time, if not already past the 10 year mark.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:16 am to TigerTattle
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Payroll deductions that are made under fake SS numbers, or under numbers of deceased persons, etc., go into a special account at the SSA
So they are going to go to the govt and say "Hey, I've been paying SS for years... my employer has been falsifying govt documents and working illegal immigrants for YEARS... I want my money I paid in taxes"???
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:30 am to Lsut81
Well, from what I read, and it was on the SS website in one of the yearly PDF reports, they have to provide old check stubs or something documenting the time period that they used the number. No repercussions (for them, anyway).
I don't know about penalties for the employers, but if the SSA accepted the payments, how would the employer know the number was fake or the employee's documentation was fake? Do you know?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:41 am to TigerTattle
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how would the employer know the number was fake or the employee's documentation was fake? Do you know?
I would imagine or HOPE, that someone would verify name/ssn when the info was submitted. But if that wasn't done, then I guess there is no way for the employer to know. Although, during a background check, I would think a red flag would be raised saying "xxxx's name doesn't match the ssn provided"
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:50 am to Lsut81
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I would imagine
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HOPE
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someone would verify
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I guess
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I would think
HOPE & CHANGE!!!!!!!!
Posted on 11/28/14 at 8:55 am to homesicktiger
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HOPE & CHANGE!!!!!!!!
Blindly blaming it on Obama when issues around verification were in place LONG before Obama took over.
But keep up the hackery
Posted on 11/28/14 at 9:21 am to Lsut81
I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you just didn't understand the humor I saw in your choice of words. It's OK. You can call me a hack if it gives you a boner. Glad I could help.
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:29 am to Jim Ignatowski
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Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:30 am to Jim Ignatowski
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No such "lawfully present" immigrant, however, would be immediately entitled to the benefits because like all Social Security and Medicare recipients they would have to work 10 years to become eligible for retirement payments and health care. T
So the lawful immigrants aren't entitled but the unlawful are?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 10:32 am to Jim Ignatowski
Is there an Apology to Joe Wilson out there by the Media?
Posted on 11/28/14 at 12:17 pm to Jim Ignatowski
quote:Over exaggeration beyond belief.
Stephen Miller, a spokesman for Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a leading Republican opponent of Obama's executive actions, said making immigrants illegally in the U.S. eligible for Social Security and Medicare "is an attack on working families."
"The amnestied illegal immigrants are largely older, lower-wage and lower-skilled and will draw billions more in benefits than they will pay in," he said.
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