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re: Another Thread About Star Wars NOT A Science Fiction Movie

Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by Peazey
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:45 pm to
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"alien eats the town" movies to serious speculative fiction.


Those are two entirely separate genres. They get lumped together either because people don't know where to put them or because people just think of it as "that weird stuff."

ETA: The different genres may share some tendencies or elements of the others like all genres, but there are definite departures between fantasy, science fiction, and monster horror movie.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 1:48 pm
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:08 pm to
Never like any of the Star Wars franchise largely because I never considered it to be science fiction.

Comic book stuff. That's what it is.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 2:58 pm to
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So, in other words...the science was fictional?


It is science fiction. They fly around in space ships, visit alien worlds and use laser weapons, etc. of course there are elements of westerns and samurai movies, but it's all presented in Sci Fi form.

Lucas is no longer allowed to make comments after IJ4.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:06 pm to
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It was an old fashioned fairy tail.


Meh - George has always pushed that "Western" theme for Star Wars, but that is another example where he was working the product as a derivative of Star Trek - Roddenberry, in his turn, of course, always said that Star Trek was "Wagon Train" to the stars, concealing the fact he was really just ripping off Forbidden Planet.

There is a Western vibe in Star Wars with Han's getup and attitude, the open desert scenes on Tatooine, the siege while they're trying to rescue Leia from the first Deathstar and, even, Hoth, etc., but I think the Western feel kind of falls apart with the antagonist being this super powerful galactic empire - that is a hallmark of science fiction, as well as the importance of the space combat scenes, machines, over the close range mano a mano confrontations more typical with Westerns.

On the other hand, I've always felt that Firefly was somewhat derivative of Star Wars (more of a realistic story around Han, fairly obviously) and it is definitely a Western - I'd argue more Western than Sci Fi, with a little bit of X-Files mixed in.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 3:07 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 3:08 pm to
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George Lucas


I though we were all aware that George Lucas knows little to nothing about the universe he created.
Posted by shinerfan
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 4:14 pm to
Star Trek has always made an effort to offer at least semi-plausible explanations for how the technology works. That makes it Sci-Fi. Star Wars fits better in the Space Opera sub genre of Fantasy.
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