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re: Charles Robinson slighting Les on Twitter
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:39 am to LSUsuperfresh
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:39 am to LSUsuperfresh
I have never heard of this
guy either..
guy either..
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Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:41 am to Macavity92
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I love how this guy says Saban's recruiting won the NC in 2007 then, in the next sentence, discounts recruiting as a factor in winning in college football. I guess Nick's players came ready to go, no coaching required.
its like the "Miles wins on talent alone" argument. These idiots think that a kid can step right out of high school into the SEC, with no practice, coaching, training, or film study, and win 80% of their games, 3 SEC West titles, 2 SEC championships, a NC with 2 NC appearances.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:50 am to OldManRiver
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Les Miles won a title w/ Nick Saban's players. Recruiting? Weis killed it at Notre Dame, & Hoke at Michigan. Seek results.
Miles certainly deserves criticism, but no need to lie
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First he "won with" Nick Saban’s recruits—which could be argued in reverse since Saban’s 2004 defending national championship team limped to a 9-3 record with several lackluster performances and a disappointing loss to Iowa in the Capital One Bowl.
With virtually that same team in 2005, on the heels of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, Miles energized a storm-devastated state and led the Tigers in a Herculean (and humanitarian) football campaign that netted 11 wins, an SEC West title and a 40-3 drubbing of No. 9 Miami in the Peach Bowl.
Yet over 75 percent of the starters on the 2007 team were recruited by Miles and his staff, capping the best three-year stretch in LSU history by going 35-6 with two West Division Crowns and 3-0 in bowl games, including two BCS victories and a national title.
That comes from an old, but accurate article: LINK
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:55 am to OldManRiver
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OldManRiver
Charles Robinson slighting Les on Twitter
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Les Miles won a title w/ Nick Saban's players. Recruiting? Weis killed it at Notre Dame, & Hoke at Michigan. Seek results.
Miles won in 2005 and 2006 with players HE HAD NEVER MET, MUCH LESS RECRUITED.
And most of 'Saban's players' under Miles were freshman on the bench under Saban.
Eleven of the of 22 startes for LSU in the 2008 BCSNCG were MILES' recruits.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:55 am to Choctaw
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nless you're undefeated you're the luckiest and most fortunate that year. it amazes me how LSU fans will try to diminish a National Championship just to spite the coach
Only some non-rational thinking LSU fans will pound their chest and say that LSU wasn't lucky to be in the NC game in 07.
Everyone else knows we were extremely lucky.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 10:59 am to Moustache
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Everyone else knows we were extremely lucky.
Every team is extremely lucky to be there. You aren't making any sense and it's obvious what you are trying to do.
Discredit NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:02 am to Moustache
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Everyone else knows we were extremely lucky.
apparently my point went completely over your head
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:12 am to efrad
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Saban left on good terms and the offensive system and staff designed by Saban (Fisher, etc.) stayed at LSU.
Fischer was at fsu in 2007.
Jimbo is a good coach. But they are struggling to win games against bad teams. If they were in the sec west, they would be a 3 loss team this year. His offense struggled at LSU at times under both coaches and under Bowden with elite talent.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:18 am
Posted on 11/25/14 at 11:24 am to Moustache
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2011 Bama is the Greatest of all time in your opinion? Really?
Do you think the most fortuitous mulligan in CFB history is a factor?
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:24 pm to AlwysATgr
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2011 was one of the greatest CFB's of all time.
One of the greatest teams of all time does not get beaten 21-0 on the biggest stage.
Sorry, but not one of the greatest.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 12:25 pm to AlwysATgr
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Do you think the most fortuitous mulligan in CFB history is a factor?
Of course, but I mean getting fricking stomped 21-0 in your own backyard is not GOAT material IMO.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 1:38 pm to Moustache
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Moustache
Charles Robinson slighting Les on Twitter
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nless you're undefeated you're the luckiest and most fortunate that year. it amazes me how LSU fans will try to diminish a National Championship just to spite the coach
Only some non-rational thinking LSU fans will pound their chest and say that LSU wasn't lucky to be in the NC game in 07.
Everyone else knows we were extremely lucky.
Uh, nooooooo. We DID our part. We won 11 games against a much stronger schedule than the other contenders including the SECCG, to get to the NC game.
The other teams that lost were either extremely 'unlucky' or just not good enough.
How the hell was LSU 'lucky' that OTHER teams lost. That had nothing to do with LSU.
LSU sure wasn't 'lucky' against Arkansas or Kentucky !!!!
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:45 pm to MetryTyger
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Uh, nooooooo. We DID our part. We won 11 games against a much stronger schedule than the other contenders including the SECCG, to get to the NC game.
The other teams that lost were either extremely 'unlucky' or just not good enough.
How the hell was LSU 'lucky' that OTHER teams lost. That had nothing to do with LSU.
LSU sure wasn't 'lucky' against Arkansas or Kentucky !!!!
LOL. Major upset of Pitt over WVU wasn't lucky? Child please. Lucky that UGA didn't win the East due to having to play UT early? UGA would've fricking wiped the floor with us with Stafford and Moreno if fricking UK and Casey dick led-Arkansas hung 50 on us.
Only a coach as incompetent as Les Miles could find a way to frick up a Saban-senior led team like 07.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:52 pm to OldManRiver
Winning a title with someones else's players is the worst argument point in the history of organized sports.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:53 pm to CBandits82
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Winning a title with someones else's players is the worst argument point in the history of organized sports.
Look a post above you at Moustache
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:06 pm to Moustache
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Lucky that UGA didn't win the East due to having to play UT early? UGA would've fricking wiped the floor with us with Stafford and Moreno if fricking UK and Casey dick led-Arkansas hung 50 on us.
UTenn was their 6th game of the '07 season, not "early." They scored 24 vs UK in their 11th game so it's a little overtstatment to think they would've "hung 50 on us." They didn't reach 50 all year vs anybody.
And you do know the 50 pts in the Arky game was in 3OT's. It was 28 all at the end of regulation.
This post was edited on 11/25/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:28 pm to Moustache
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The senior class was Saban's players. That's just a fact of life.
However, we won the NC because we were the luckiest and most fortunate team that year. That's also fact.
I'm only commented to note that I meant to downvote this horrendous bullshite but accidentally hit upvote. Please disregard that...
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:39 pm to Moustache
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LOL. Major upset of Pitt over WVU wasn't lucky? Child please. Lucky that UGA didn't win the East due to having to play UT early? UGA would've fricking wiped the floor with us with Stafford and Moreno if fricking UK and Casey dick led-Arkansas hung 50 on us.
So now we're going to disregard championships won because of what if's?
Holy fricking balls...
Well...what if Bin Laden had not brought down the Twin Towers on 9-11? You think our 2001 LSU team which had clearly not gotten it's shite together until a mid season loss to Ole Miss at home and which had been prison raped earlier in the year by Rex Grossman at home was going to beat AU on the originally scheduled September Saturday? So...guess we don't count that SEC title right? Too lucjy to count? I mean...how fricking lucky does a team have to be to go 5-3 in the SECW and still manage to fall arse backwards into Atlanta? the 2001 team required middle east terrorism to make it to Atlanta...no slight against Nick though, right?
I honestly don't know what to think of this place anymore. I'm fine with fans making an attempt to not be homers, but since when has going in the complete opposite direction and shitting on your own program become "keeping it real?"
Posted on 11/25/14 at 3:56 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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So now we're going to disregard championships won because of what if's?
What? I'm not disregarding a championship. I'm glad we won. People point to this championship 7 fricking years ago to justify a coach who is inept and clearly on a decline. I"m just pointing out he got fricking lucky.
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Too lucjy to count? I mean...how fricking lucky does a team have to be to go 5-3 in the SECW and still manage to fall arse backwards into Atlanta? the 2001 team required middle east terrorism to make it to Atlanta...no slight against Nick though, right?
'01 was a lucky turn of events to win that championship. Still was amazing how far Nick brought LSU from the '99 season. Cupboard was not all that full.
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but since when has going in the complete opposite direction and shitting on your own program become "keeping it real?"
I just fail to see how calling Les incredibly lucky (think about all the close calls) is a bad thing. It's truth. Les could just as easily had lost the following games:
ASU 05
Bama 05
Auburn 07
Bama 07
It's also a bad sign when Les' offense needs an NFL QB not to look like a monkey fricking a football. NFL
QBs aren't readily available in college.
Posted on 11/25/14 at 4:06 pm to Moustache
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Moustache
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'01 was a lucky turn of events to win that championship. Still was amazing how far Nick brought LSU from the '99 season. Cupboard was not all that full.
bullshite. You are quite out of your mind.
More players were drafted from Dinardo's last 2 years of '98 and '99 and his leftover players who played for Saban in '00 and '01 than any of Saban's recuriting classes.
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