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re: Ferguson GJ: No Indictment Mayhem: [ON] OFF
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:39 pm to PsychTiger
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:39 pm to PsychTiger
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The key word there is "peaceful". Most of us have no problem with those involved in the peaceful protests; however, the opportunists using the situation to riot and loot should be viewed with disdain by all.
Nobody in their right mind wants to see rioting.
However, it makes people like Big Scrub feel morally superior by thinking people do want to see it, so...whatever helps him/her sleep at night, I guess.
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:40 pm to NHTIGER
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It's my understanding that the GJ is usually given a number of options on which to charge. In this situation, I believe there were seven potential charges that were likely to be included on the "menu".
Well hell, how hard can it be to not be able to find something he did wrong with that smorgasbord of a menu? If the little boy comes running out the door hollering "he's free, he's free", then it seems all questions should be answered concerning any guilt.
Thanks btw.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:40 pm to PsychTiger
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The soon to be famous 2014 Riots Without Rhythm.
it begins
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:40 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I like any aggrieved group in this country to exercise their constitutional rights as they see fit and engage in peaceful protest.
So you're against buffer zone laws?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:40 pm to PsychTiger
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The key word there is "peaceful". Most of us have no problem with those involved in the peaceful protests; however, the opportunists using the situation to riot and loot should be viewed with disdain by all.
True. Which is why I was disturbed by the collective effort on this board and in some of the media at large to make it seem as if the looters were somehow the average person in Ferguson.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:41 pm to Big Scrub TX
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collective effort on this board
Way to make up some anonymous boogey man to get mad at
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:41 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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That could be entertaining.
How so? White people "riot" by staying at home.
We're lazy as f*ck.
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IF y'all riot like y'all dance
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there will be a lot of odd moving about with your hands over your heads...looking out of sync and a little embarrassing.
Okay - I take the "racism" back - that's fair.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:42 pm to Big Scrub TX
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True. Which is why I was disturbed by the collective effort on this board and in some of the media at large to make it seem as if the looters were somehow the average person in Ferguson
I think it's fairly common knowledge that the trouble is being caused by outside agitators.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:47 pm to Godfather1
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I think it's fairly common knowledge that the trouble is being caused by outside agitators.
Go back and look at the threads from August. Not a whole lot of nuance in those. A lot of lazy conflation of the "outside agitators" with the average person in Ferguson. I've repeatedly asked certain posters to estimate which percentage of the Ferguson population it was fair to call "looters" or "rioters". No response.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:47 pm to Big Scrub TX
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collective effort on this board
Strawman much?
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:49 pm to Big Scrub TX
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Go back and look at the threads from August. Not a whole lot of nuance in those. A lot of lazy conflation of the "outside agitators" with the average person in Ferguson. I've repeatedly asked certain posters to estimate which percentage of the Ferguson population it was fair to call "looters" or "rioters". No response
You are pointing your anger in the wrong direction. You somehow have convinced yourself that posters on message boards talking about animals rioting, is actually worse than animals rioting and destroying a town.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:50 pm to Ace Midnight
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How so? White people "riot" by staying at home.
We're lazy as f*ck.
Unless it involves one of our sports teams.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:53 pm to BeeFense5
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You somehow have convinced yourself that posters on message boards talking about animals rioting, is actually worse than animals rioting and destroying a town.
I think he's already gone too far down that road - I try to engage him in many of the :blacksession: threads, but he only goes so far and stops. Ultimately, in Big Scrub's world, it is all white people's fault and starting from that point, it is tough to make in roads about "these specific white people right here" or "those specific black people over there" - and everything takes on a racial filter.
To be fair to him, SS and OMMG - there does seem to be quite a gang of white folks on here that seem to think the worst of all black folks. I try to sit in the middle of that and speak reasonably about specific people doing specific things with specific consequences. The race is irrelevant to me until it isn't.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 3:53 pm to Big Scrub TX
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I've repeatedly asked certain posters to estimate which percentage of the Ferguson population it was fair to call "looters" or "rioters". No response.
I've TWICE asked you to name two (2) posters that meet your statement of "significant numbers of posters" and "the usual suspects"...yet,...crickets.
If there are 'significant' amounts of "them" and they are 'usual suspects'....how can you not name 2 of them?
While lamenting those awful people who will not answer your question.
See, I see US as the same as THEM.
We say we get our feelings hurt at 'locked car doors' and 'crossing the street'...yet, we say "THEY are doing ______"
If we expect them to not generalize...perhaps, we should not.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:12 pm to Big Scrub TX
The average population of looters from Ferguson?
Less than 20% (Id guess lower than 10%).
The average agitators from Ferguson?
Less than 10%
Ferguson is a blue collar town with grass lawns, brick ranches and a lot of hard working Americans. The idiots from the city did the looting and the outside agitators did the protesting.
Less than 20% (Id guess lower than 10%).
The average agitators from Ferguson?
Less than 10%
Ferguson is a blue collar town with grass lawns, brick ranches and a lot of hard working Americans. The idiots from the city did the looting and the outside agitators did the protesting.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:16 pm to Big Scrub TX
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A lot of lazy conflation of the "outside agitators" with the average person in Ferguson. I've repeatedly asked certain posters to estimate which percentage of the Ferguson population it was fair to call "looters" or "rioters". No response.
I'm a pretty conservative lily white guy. I also sometimes hate cops. And I totally agree with you. There was a lot of "let Ferguson burn to the ground" kind of sentiment on here which was frustrating for me. I have friends who live in Ferguson, work in Ferguson, run their business from Ferguson. The Internet badasses on here painting with broad strokes were supremely annoying.
So that's probably the first and last thing we'll agree on.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:16 pm to Ace Midnight
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Ultimately, in Big Scrub's world, it is all white people's fault and starting from that point, it is tough to make in roads about "these specific white people right here" or "those specific black people over there"
Specific people on this board (I assume they are white, but have no way of knowing) have clearly gone out of their way to paint virtually every citizen of Ferguson as a "rioter" or "looting animal" or whatever. Some of them are now acting as if they took pains back in August to separate them into different groups but they did not.
I can tell from your comments about the "gang of white folks on here" that you know this is the case. Let's stop pretending that I am making this up.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:17 pm to the808bass
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The average population of looters from Ferguson? Less than 20% (Id guess lower than 10%). The average agitators from Ferguson? Less than 10% Ferguson is a blue collar town with grass lawns, brick ranches and a lot of hard working Americans. The idiots from the city did the looting and the outside agitators did the protesting.
Thank you. Although I think your numbers are probably high, we needed more people like you on here back in August.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:19 pm to Big Scrub TX
I was fighting the good fight on the OT and getting mocked for the distinction by the usual suspects.
Posted on 11/24/14 at 4:35 pm to the808bass
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I was fighting the good fight on the OT and getting mocked for the distinction by the usual suspects.
I've been informed that there are no such people on the board.
I find the very thread itself to make my entire point.
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