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Spending cut talk yet to include film industry welfare--$1.4 billion must be cut

Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:20 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:20 pm
Jindal is scrambling to find cuts and/or revenue to close the budget gap.

He is grabbing one time money here and there and robbing Peter to pay Paul to get through the year.

LINK

What is happening now is peanuts compared to what looms next year.

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What money may -- or may not -- be available to support the Louisiana government next year is of immediate concern to state legislators. They received word last week that they will have to close a $1.4 billion hole in next year's state government spending plan. It's likely they will have to make painful cuts -- or raise taxes -- as many of them face reelection in 2015.


Now a fiscally conservative governor looking after taxpaying citizens would certainly end the $300 million in welfare to film makers one would think.

When we get such a governor someone let me know.
This post was edited on 11/22/14 at 6:33 pm
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21839 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 3:41 pm to
Is this one of those arguments where a tax break or exemption is considered money taken directly away from Louisiana citizens?
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58123 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:22 pm to
This is how BJ likes to play this game. He loves to set an unrealistic budget then come in with cuts later on the year.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:23 pm to
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Now a fiscally conservative governor looking after taxpaying citizens would certainly end the $300 million in welfare to film makers one would think.


rabble rabble rabble rabble tax film Jindal rabble rabble




Ok I 'll give a serious answer. Should it be cut/reformed whatever you want to call it yes, but done away with no. It brought $800 million in business to the state last year and according to the ppl in the interview they wouldn't be here without the tax credit. It does need some reform because like every other program ppl have figured out how to milk it (which probably hurts the overall effectiveness of the program).


back to rabble rabble rabble
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13080 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:55 pm to
How is it our state govt is so far behind when the state's economy is doing so well?
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30991 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 4:58 pm to
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How is it our state govt is so far behind when the state's economy is doing so well?


Lower price of oil?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

How is it our state govt is so far behind when the state's economy is doing so well?


$20 drop in oil prices.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68199 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 5:11 pm to
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How is it our state govt is so far behind when the state's economy is doing so well?


They can only cut certain areas while entitlements never get cut.
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6254 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:27 pm to
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How is it our state govt is so far behind when the state's economy is doing so well?



Agree or disagree with the Stelly plan and other rollbacks, but the state would have an additional 2-3 billion in revenue. Our state collected 12 billion in 2008, it now collects 9-10. Saw this in the paper according to Jim Richardson.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:37 pm to
The so called tax credits---cost over $300 billion a year. It is welfare.

If they were really tax credits it would require the recipient to actually have a tax liability to use them.

Start talking about making them non cash redeemable and non transferrable and all you people who do not think this is welfare will understand completely as the film makers will scream. Ask them to generate enough taxes to use them and they will leave. Who wants an industry that requires bribes to stay?

20%-25% of the projected budget shortfall would disappear if this welfare was eliminated.
Posted by 1DuckyBoy
pond
Member since Aug 2014
214 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:25 pm to
sir........giving great tax deals to companies who would not otherwise spend 1 $ here is not welfare........idiot
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:30 pm to
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sir........giving great tax deals to companies who would not otherwise spend 1 $ here is not welfare........idiot



how stupid is that logic--

give me 30% of my expenses and I will spend some money here. would that be welfare??

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:40 pm to
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The so called tax credits---cost over $300 billion a year. It is welfare.


Last year, the film industry pumped $800 million into the Louisiana economy. That is not welfare is getting a check to do nothing. Does the program have loopholes that need to filled yes. However, if we did away with the program then the movie industry would pick up and move out and that would leave thousands without a job and then that would require real welfare.
Posted by Asgard Device
The Daedalus
Member since Apr 2011
11562 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 7:40 pm to
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Is this one of those arguments where a tax break or exemption is considered money taken directly away from Louisiana citizens?



Absolutely. Can you please give all my cousins who are out of state $10 billion in tax credits for anything they spend in Louisiana? They will come and economically develop our asses. That's $10 BILLION that they'll spend and then add the economic multiplier effect on top of that and it probably doubles. It won't cost Louisiana Tax Payers a dime though, right?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 9:46 pm to
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Does the program have loopholes that need to filled yes. However, if we did away with the program then the movie industry would pick up and move out and that would leave thousands without a job and then that would require real welfare.


WeeWee if we made them non transferrable and non cash redeemable they would be tax credits and not welfare.

As they are they are welfare and there is no good reason to grow an industry that cost us hundreds of millions simply because without the bribes they will leave.

How many jobs is it cost us to give them that much money? Have you thought of that?

It is really corporate welfare---an out and out subsidy and you should be ashamed for supporting it.
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