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re: How the hell is Toronto so good?

Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:13 pm to
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:13 pm to
Hence the second part of my post
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:19 pm to
If the Rockets didn't trade Lowry, they wouldn't have gotten James Harden.

That's really all there is to know about the Lowry trade. I would love to still have Lowry on the team, but it worked out better.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:30 pm to
The counter to that is had they hired a coach that could have worked with Lowry they might not have needed harden.

Toronto found a way to turn Lowry around, so it was possible. Of course I have the benefit of hindsight so it is tough to be too critical of the trade.

If the rockets don't make a legitimate run at the WCF they will probably Fire mchale. So the net is Harden and Howard, a bad cap situation, a fired coach and the rep of underachievement.

My issue is morey makes moves, then more moves to fix his moves and then more moves to fix those moves. One thing about their roster now is he is just about out of moves
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:41 pm to
If they can trade fort a big and get some consistency groom Ross, they will become a true title contender.
Posted by LittleRockHog501
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 11:52 pm to
Kyle Lowry and Demar are easily all star caliber players surrounded by quality complimentary players
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 1:34 am to
Masai Ujiri

Same GM that executed the Melo deal for Denver
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 2:07 am to
Did you watch them last year? THey were a year away last year. I havent watched them at all this year and dont know their record. But if they make the east finals i wouldnt be surprised
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:39 am to
Meh, they're good, but definitely not as good as their record.

They've only played 3 road games, and haven't played a tough schedule to date(only played 2 teams above .500 I believe).

They'll get their chance to prove themselves though
Posted by PortCityTiger24
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:46 am to
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And port I don't like morey and I hate the local coverage of the rockets by the toothless Houston media


Wrong Rockets fan

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27305 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 6:46 am to
That makes no sense. They don't have a bad cap situation at all...

What makes you think that?
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 9:02 am to
quote:


Posted by Message
kadillak
How the hell is Toronto so good?
Masai Ujiri

Same GM that executed the Melo deal for Denver


Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:27 am to
Toronto has had a soft schedule thus far though.

Miami and Chicago pretty much are the only 2 legit teams (before Wade, and Chicago's entire team caught the injury bug anyways) they've played this year.

They play Cleveland tonight.
Posted by cgrand
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:52 am to
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Posted by kadillak Masai Ujiri Same GM that executed the Melo deal for Denver


Raps entire starting 5 was acquired by Brian colangelo
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6930 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 10:52 am to
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Looking at their roster, their level of play just doesn't seem to correlate. They legitimately look like the best team in basketball at times.


If you didn't think they were seriously good, you weren't paying much attention- they closed last year 41-21 after the Gay trade. They've played good basketball for a while; throw in playing in a garbage conference, and they're going to have a very good record.

What do you expect the roster for one of the best teams in basketball to look like?

A superstar that handles the ball in crunch time situations?

Check.

A scorer who takes pressure offensively off the star?

Check.

A rotation of passable bigs that rebound, play defense, and grit out tough minutes?
*
Check.

Sound coach?

Check.

A former near-all star level performer who is reconstructing their career after a major injury?

Check.

I swear half the people who talk about the NBA don't actually watch the NBA....
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 11:55 am to
Wouldn't classify Dwyane Casey as a "sound coach". If you think that, you should read the Raptors forums on RealGM
Posted by BoardReader
Arkansas
Member since Dec 2007
6930 posts
Posted on 11/22/14 at 12:01 pm to
Oh, he pisses off Raptors fans to no end, no doubt. Still, in a league where Byron Scott has been employed multiple times, and Jason Kidd can job hop as a commodity, solid isn't a high bar.
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