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Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:56 pm to
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Hispanics are oppressed but generally have strong family units. What gives?

That's a good questions
Never seen this one

Plus, some of these Mexican families went through total hell that we couldn't even imagine in Mexico. Like real suppression that haunts you at night, and not that made up America suppression that some say we go through in 2014. Bless those Mexican souls after going through such hardships.

Well, Blacks having to be afraid of getting killed while walking to school is terrifying too. Didn't even think of that when trying the above. Blacks have a legit reason to be afraid too, but suppression isn't one of those fears anymore. Many Blacks have to be depressed that other Blacks are the ones killing other Blacks today. Any killing is sad but seems it being so close to home hits harder.

With any color, family life matters for a better chance of success and the Black family numbers aren't pretty. From my personnel experience after my dad left (13-14 yrs old). The home life was completely different and what I got away with. Bless my Mom's soul, she tried watching us while working 3 jobs after my dad was gone. I was off to work too when I could do so legally. The family is the key to success, no doubt. I can attest to this thinking from my own experiences.
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17176 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:56 pm to
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LBJ


Trying to blame a basketball player
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 3:58 pm to
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The Sexual Revolution


It actually lagged behind (and still lags behind) in the black community. Black Americans are still far less likely to use protection, have less access to or knowledge of contraceptive measures and have less exposure to sex ed in school. Homosexuality is far more stigmatized in the AA community than among whites, and black children who are discovered to be gay are typically kicked out of the home, disowned by the community and started down a path which dooms their future.

The sexual revolution permeating the black community would help, not hurt them. It would significantly lower the rates of STDs, lower the rates of unwanted pregnancy and limit the demonization of homosexuality.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73494 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:01 pm to
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The Democratic Party and black leadership who have profited at the expense of the black population.


Correct

Don't forget, though, that Mark Richt has lost control of the black family.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:01 pm to
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If young black males were primary users


Link??????????????????????????????????????????
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
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have less access to or knowledge of contraceptive measures


How so? They heard about condoms or BC?

Whose responsibility is 'responsibility'?
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:04 pm to
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If young black males were primary users, why it wouldn't they be the primary focus of drug curtailment efforts?
You really think young black males are he primary users of drugs? Trolling, right?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:05 pm to
He took my comment about then being targeted in the 70s as meaning they became the primary users of drugs. Why he took it that way I have no idea.
Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:07 pm to
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He took my comment about then being targeted in the 70s as meaning they became the primary users of drugs. Why he took it that way I have no idea.
I think you have an idea.
Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:07 pm to
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The black family didn't really begin falling apart until the late 60s.
The Moynihan Report was written in 1965.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33403 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:08 pm to
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If young black males were primary users, why it wouldn't they be the primary focus of drug curtailment efforts?


But they aren't the primary users. If anything, whites use more.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:10 pm to
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How so? They heard about condoms or BC?


You'd be shocked at how many people from the lower social classes lack even basic knowledge about sex, such as how to correctly use a condom or when a woman can get pregnant in her cycle. Just last week I encountered a young AA female patient who thought standing up after sex prevented pregnancy. This is not uncommon, either.

And lord knows they are unaware of the various contraceptive measures available to them. Sure, most have at least heard of the pill but they don't know anything about the depot shot or the nuva ring or anything else often times.

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Whose responsibility is 'responsibility'?


Ideally it would be up to the parents to rear their children with an adequate knowledge of sex and safe practices, but when the parents of a population are often as ignorant as their children what do we do?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:10 pm to
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Got to be someone's fault. Who can be blamed here?

Um, blacks
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:11 pm to
Okay, perhaps I worded that earlier statement incorrectly. My point was, would you not point drug curtailment efforts in the most targeted communities?
Posted by fillmoregandt
OTM
Member since Nov 2009
14368 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:14 pm to
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when the parents of a population are often as ignorant as their children what do we do?


Create another government program to save them from themselves!!
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112475 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:15 pm to
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Got to be someone's fault. Who can be blamed here?


LBJ, Racism and the Free Market.

LBJ obviously made a husband unneeded since the govt will take care of you. But I had a long friendship with a black female professional who I shall call Mary.

Mary never married. She was very smart and very attractive. When she was in her 50s I asked about why no husband. To paraphrase:

"Zach, first you have to take out the black males who are uneducated or commit crimes or went to prison. Then take out the black males on drugs. Then take out the black males who are unemployed. By the time you get down to the rest who are marriage possibilities they are in HUGE demand (free market). They can pick and choose. They marry white women or very light skinned blacks. I'm dark skinned and will not settle."

Mary is now 66. She had a point. When I look at ads of young black couples the woman is always light skinned compared to the man. Dark skinned black women with a high IQ are in a world of hurt in the free market of marriage.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:15 pm to
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fillmoregandt


The war on drugs is not about curtailing drug usage.

Posted by BuckyBadger
Member since Aug 2014
740 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:16 pm to
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Okay, perhaps I worded that earlier statement incorrectly. My point was, would you not point drug curtailment efforts in the most targeted communities?
So more cops targeting college campuses?
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46511 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:16 pm to
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The Moynihan Report was written in 1965.


In 1965, around 20-25% of AA children were born out of wedlock. Today it is more than double that. In 1965, about 30% of black children grew up with no or minimal interaction with their father. Today that number is closer to 65%.

So regardless of the problems facing the AA community prior to the 60s (problems which were almost entirely poverty driven at that time) they grew exponentially beginning in the late 60s and 70s.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 4:19 pm to
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It actually lagged behind (and still lags behind) in the black community. Black Americans are still far less likely to use protection, have less access to or knowledge of contraceptive measures and have less exposure to sex ed in school.



I wasn't very clear in my post. The people in charge of the Great Society did their best to make sure the lies of the Sexual Revolution (sex does not need responsibility and sex has no repercussions) made it into the black communities. They also made sure that the vast majority of abortion facilities were placed in majority-black areas. This is stuff that Jesse Jackson of all people was railing against at the beginning of his career before he sold out to get political power.
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