re: Do you have a problem w/ a bank having a no gun policy?

I would say no, the only reason to fight back against bank robbers would be in a hostage/life or death situation. Otherwise take cover and let them try to rob the bank.

Some idiot with a CC license would prolly start blasting away in a crowded bank and hurt someone more often than preventing harm

I get the argument but I don't think the reward is worth the risk. If the bank is being robbed do you really want to be in a gunfight to protect the banks money (or yours for that matter).

My biggest problem would be with the number of trigger happy idiots out there that would start blasting as soon as they see someone else pull a gun

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I forgot to mention that for Joe Blow coming into your bank, unless you can provide security for him at your bank and guarantee it, then aren't you liable for his safety if he is disbarred from carrying?

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Many banks stopped providing armed security SOLELY because they statistically showed to only escalate situations rather than resolve/deter them.

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How does allowing criminals to go uncontested inside each and every bank they rob deter them from continuing such behavior?

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Let's acknowledge that, for the most part, like 99.9% of the time, we're talking about a crime where the bank can easily recoup its losses. And, most bank robberies involve a note threatening to use a weapon. You don't actually see the weapon. The possibility of endangering the lives of customers is something banks want to avoid.

I do understand that there are extreme circumstances, but you have to be careful to not allow the exceptions to swallow the rule.

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EDIT: I already stated my opinion on this topic but enjoy the conversation with hard questions. I'm sure you know to take none of this personally.

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Oh, I don't mind at all. Discourse is how we solve problems. It's great to hear opposing views. They make me challenge my ideas and either refute them or make them stronger.

i feel like bapple knows he's wrong but won't change his mind.

I actually don't have a problem with any facility that is open to the public having a no-gun policy...

while I have no problem with concealed carry, I say if someone owns a business and they don't want to allow concealed carry on the premisis, then there should be no concealed carry on the premesis...

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Some idiot with a CC license would prolly start blasting away in a crowded bank and hurt someone more often than preventing harm

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You are way off base with this assumption. I carry in a bank and it's being robbed, I'm hitting the floor and taking cover. Only if he starts capping customers would I consider pulling mine.

I have to agree with bapple. Most in here assume that if someone robs a bank and a CC'er is present in the bank he/she will immediately draw a weapon and start firing.

Carrying a gun concealed on your person is not to stop bank robberies. It's for the time that someone threatens your life.

If I was in a bank CC'ing and someone robs it. I would first try to get the F out of there. I that's not possible I would not try to stop the bank robbery. Now I they point a gun at me, well things will change.

Do I have a problem with a no gun policy? No it's a private buisness they can do what they want. However, I can take my buisness else where as well.

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Once you get over the whole "but the bad guys win" thing.

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It's not a petty competition if people's lives are involved. There are unlimited stories of career criminals and repeat offenders committing crimes. I don't think I am off base in the slightest.

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The money is insured, nobody gets hurt. Is even one life worth starting potentially deadly altercations just to deter criminals from committing nonviolent crimes? That's a question each may have a different answer for. Mine is no.

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I agree with the first part but the "just one life" thing is a straw man fallacy. It's the oldest trick in the book because it does not take into account the bigger picture of how many lives it COSTS. Granted, bank robberies don't seem to be violent very often, but the only thing that prevents it from becoming violent is the criminal's own decision to not escalate it to that point. People put way too much faith in criminals. "Just give them what they want" doesn't always work, even though in the bank situation it at least makes a little more sense.

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Robbery has been around longer than mankind has been around. What exactly is the purpose here?

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Violence has also been around since the existence of time. I don't know what point you're trying to convey with this statement. Robbery is still a violent offense since the threat of bodily harm is present. Time has nothing to do with it.

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i feel like bapple knows he's wrong but won't change his mind.

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I already stated my opinion. A distinction in my mind needs to be made of whether or not the armed carrier is a customer or an employee and which group the policy entails.

If it's an employee, the company can create whatever policies it wants that the employee is required to follow.

If it's a customer, it shouldn't matter if he/she is armed just like any other gun free zone. If you prohibit someone's own personal self defense tool with a piece of paper (aka a law) this does not PHYSICALLY prevent a criminal from coming in armed. And like I said, this is a very realistic, logical argument when talking about any gun free zone. If they check everyone at the store and guarantee my safety, it's different. But unless that happens, there is nothing physically stopping it from happening.

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civiltiger07

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This guy gets it. I hope I would be able to assess any situation on an individual basis as a concealed carrier. We only get split seconds to choose a course of action if ever faced with this so I hope I make the right decision if confronted with any hypothetical scenario. Getting the F out is ALWAYS option 1.

I think a lot of this discussion is moot since bank robberies are so much less common now. With electronic currency being the dominant form, I imagine bank robberies are down significantly.