re: The "not ready" or "he will be ruined" are the dumbest excuses, I'll prove it

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Developing a RB =/= developing a QB.

Wouldn't mind seeing Harris on the field though.

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perfect answer

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I don't think that Miles or Cameron are thrilled with having to trot a Sophomore QB onto the field each week.

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We shouldn't have to.....there should be a Jr/Sr to step in and keep the ship running. You would think our coaches would see these little hurdles coming...you know like.....graduations/early defections to the NFL/transfers/dumazzes kicked off team and have well thought-out contingencies in place to prevent drop-off.
This concept seems to have eluded our coaches some how.

I think Jason Campbell is a decent comparison. He was pretty bad at Auburn as a youngster but they threw him out there anyay. In 2004 as a senior he didn't lose a game and ended up being a first round pick.

The point that he is third on the team in UPC, that he is regressing in productivity.

What did you not understand?

Yeah but they are great defenses? Is that Jennings excuse too, or do we discredit Harris for his mop up success?

My point, is your argument is stupid.

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As Miles said Yesterday in his Press Conf- What ever were doing wrong we are going to keep doing it BUT were going to do it better. Miles will never quit trying to put a round peg in a square hole .PERIOD

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Unfortunately I believe you might be right. Les Miles is a special individual. We do know he is not a developer of QB's. So those saying leave it to the coach are off base.

With the below par performance of the position, Harris should have been receiving some meaningful snaps in every game. Not necessarily start, but receive playing time to allow growth. He has already lost his redshirt. Miles has not done that in the past, which may be part of his problem with developing QBs. He never trusts them. Mett sat the bench his first year and came back with no experience his second year. Jennings set the bench his first year except when injury forced a change. Rivers never received any meaningful snaps before he left. With the play of Jennings, how can it be explained that Harris has received no meaningful snaps after Auburn. Only bad coaching can explain it in my mind. Either he has not been coached up or you are not properly developing the position for the future. There is no sane reason I can think of for Harris not receiving playing time.

For those who fall for the "he is not working hard enough", "he does not know the playbook" crowd, please explain how he became the competitor with Jennings for the starting position over Rivers and Reddiq not knowing the playbook or working hard. How did he win a start at a top 5 team on the road without knowing the playbook or working hard? Are the coaches that terrible that they would start a true freshman under those conditions when he doesn't know the play book or works hard? I hope not.

I truly believe, it is Miles ultraconservative offensive philosophy of playing not to lose and fear of interceptions that have ruled the day. He knows Harris has a much higher ceiling than Jennings. But Harris is a gunslinger who will ad lib more so than Jennings. Miles wants complete control of the position to limit interceptions. Jennings gives him that complete control. Jennings appears to be afraid to stray from the designed play and as afraid of interceptions as Miles. To the point of being indecisive and slow to make decisions. Unlike most, I believe Jennings could be a good division 1 QB with the proper coaching and play calling.

Miles is so afraid of interceptions that he will accept piss poor QB play over maybe a more talented player who is more of a gun-slinging ad lib type. The college Michael Vick could never play for Miles, too much ad lib, even though successful at it. Nor could Johnny Football (Miles would have a heart attack). The spread requires some ad libbing from the QB and is why LSU does not run it more even though Miles recruits spread type QBs. That is why when JJ got back he was inserted in the lineup as soon as possible. Lee, although a better passer, freaked out when heavily pressured. He tended to just throw the ball up to get it out of his hand. That was a nightmare scenario for Miles.

Until Miles gets over his monsters and start trusting his QBs, quarterback development at LSU will be minimal. And the offense will always be handcuffed by Miles. Maybe he needs to make an appointment with a psych doctor to help him with his problems. Maybe free his mind to trust his QBs and become aggressive and play to win.

We will go with terrible defenses for that one. shite everyone wants to find a clever fricking angle. They are all dumb, the problem is clear. Offensively we suck. It starts with QB but there is plenty of bad play to point to everywhere.

Jennings is bad, Harris may be better. Who the hell knows. There is the potential that he isn't ready, there is the potential it could mess up his development to appease the fandom. But for sure LF playing running back with diminishing returns isn't the argument to support playing him.

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But this "ruining" a player is simply a cop out go to expression that has no merit. Good players ball, bad players fizzle out.....playing a game doesn't ruin leaders, it creates them!

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I dunno about that. I think that the way Lee and Jefferson were handled at he beginning of heir careers harmed both of them.

I also think flip flopping quarterbacks can be a recipe for disaster. Once he pulled Jennings and put in Harris and Harris struggled, to me it was a situation where he could: A) leave Harris in the rest of the year anyway or B) Leave Jennings in. Up until the last 55 seconds or so of the Bama game, not too many people were complaining about going with option B. Now that we've lost two in a row, more people are.

In any event, I don't think playing Harris now would really be flip flopping too much because it is after all the last regular season game.

So you trumpet performances against NMSU yet claim quality of defenses matter later.

Diminishing..it means, well, diminishing. Which is what LF has done.

LF is a good back, but once again, back to the point of the thread....the stats don't pan out that something has clicked and he is rushing better.

The point is stupid, because playing RB and QB are night and day

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It's the same with any young inexperienced player

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Quarterback is unlike most other positions. Once one starts doing something wrong, if they can't fix it quickly, they'll keep doing it. Just look at Lee.