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Obama’s Executive Order on Immigration Is Unlikely to Include Health Benefits
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:24 am
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:24 am
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WASHINGTON — Millions of undocumented immigrants who are set to be granted a form of legal status by President Obama as early as this week will not receive one key benefit: government subsidies for health care available under the Affordable Care Act. Mr. Obama is preparing to use his executive authority to provide work permits for up to five million people who are in the United States illegally, and to shield them from deportation. But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.
Yeah Right
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:26 am to pistolpete23
"Officially" they won't receive them.
However, the exchange websites are such a clusterfrick that you could have a yes no question regarding subsidy eligibility and it would still disregard the answer.
At best, they get the subsidy on the front end then get an anal probe by the IRS. Won't happen though because the IRS won't follow up on it.
However, the exchange websites are such a clusterfrick that you could have a yes no question regarding subsidy eligibility and it would still disregard the answer.
At best, they get the subsidy on the front end then get an anal probe by the IRS. Won't happen though because the IRS won't follow up on it.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:34 am to pistolpete23
It won't bother me at all if they get them. Hell, at least they work and show up every day. They don't bring their home life drama with them. I say give them all amnesty.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:36 am to pistolpete23
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But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.
Hmmmmmm, this is exactly the project Gruber worked on for the Admin
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:37 am to CptBengal
Who???
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:38 am to pistolpete23
Here is a serious question. What specific laws, if any, will he be breaking by unilaterally giving amnesty?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:38 am to pistolpete23
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But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.
Annnddddd....what if the hospital they show up at actually wants to be paid something? Is the EO going to forbid hositals from getting illegals to fill out MCD applications? Particularly L&D units in border areas, where a new American citizen is born every few minutes. Is the EO going to stop those mommas from getting MCD?
Is the EO going to overrule EMTALA for undocumented immigrants?
Why would he need to order something that already exists and is readily available?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:42 am to pistolpete23
The good part about Obama's little empire crumbling around him is that we get to see his real identity. Can't wait to watch him single-handedly ruin the D's for the next several years. This is sure to lose the black vote in this country and if Rand doesn't exploit this very issue, I'll be very disappointed.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:55 am to upgrayedd
Sorry to ruin it for you upgray, but his 95% would sadly follow him without question even if he decided to invade hell.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 11:58 am to SundayFunday
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question. What specific laws, if any, will he be breaking by unilaterally giving amnesty?
None, he is simply not enforcing the law.
Here is the BIG ISSUE...
The president cannot make a new beneficiary class of people. What was leaked to the NYTimes is that the president wants to grant a new category of legal working documents to parents of dreamers. There is zero legal basis for this because only the legislative branch can create these laws and the Supreme Court will strike that part down.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:01 pm to bamarep
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Sorry to ruin it for you upgray, but his 95% would sadly follow him without question even if he decided to invade hell.
It's possible but I think with the right delivery it could be very effective.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:03 pm to SundayFunday
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Here is a serious question. What specific laws, if any, will he be breaking by unilaterally giving amnesty?
Dig through this guys website. You'll find all you need to know.
BTW, same guy will likely fight him at SCOTUS. And win.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:06 pm to pistolpete23
And I hope he does this.
2016 will be another bloodbath.
2016 will be another bloodbath.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:29 pm to pistolpete23
I thought it was the law to obtain health care.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:42 pm to gatorrocks
Thanks guys
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TOKEN
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:43 pm to pistolpete23
The shouldn't get anything. Don't like it go back!
Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:58 pm to SundayFunday
quote:
Here is a serious question. What specific laws, if any, will he be breaking by unilaterally giving amnesty?
None. Just like when a Reagan and Bush did it and it wasn't breaking any law.
LINK
They granted amnesty for family members not covered by the amnesty bill. Obama is granting amnesty of family members of citizens.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:01 pm to double d
So they will be granted amnesty, they will still work for cash and not pay any taxes, they will still go to the hospital can receive care because they can't be denied. That will in turn increase the cost of healthcare because the hospital had to makeup that loss somewhere, so it's rolled to the people who do pay.
Additionally their kids will be able to live off the social system, they refuse to use any form of contraceptives because Catholic, and they reproduce like rats.
We are screwed. I'll bet he gives them access to healthcare and other social systems before it's over with.
Additionally their kids will be able to live off the social system, they refuse to use any form of contraceptives because Catholic, and they reproduce like rats.
We are screwed. I'll bet he gives them access to healthcare and other social systems before it's over with.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:01 pm to TOKEN
Not true. There is precedence:
From my link:
Nearly three decades ago, there was barely a peep when Reagan and Bush used their authority to extend amnesty to the spouses and minor children of immigrants covered by the 1986 law.
In 1986, Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.
Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. In 1987, Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation.
Read more: LINK
From my link:
Nearly three decades ago, there was barely a peep when Reagan and Bush used their authority to extend amnesty to the spouses and minor children of immigrants covered by the 1986 law.
In 1986, Congress and Reagan enacted a sweeping overhaul that gave legal status to up to 3 million immigrants without authorization to be in the country, if they had come to the U.S. before 1982. Spouses and children who could not meet that test did not qualify, which incited protests that the new law was breaking up families.
Early efforts in Congress to amend the law to cover family members failed. In 1987, Reagan's Immigration and Naturalization Service commissioner announced that minor children of parents granted amnesty by the law would get protection from deportation.
Read more: LINK
Posted on 11/19/14 at 1:05 pm to pistolpete23
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WASHINGTON — Millions of undocumented immigrants who are set to be granted a form of legal status by President Obama as early as this week will not receive one key benefit: government subsidies for health care available under the Affordable Care Act. Mr. Obama is preparing to use his executive authority to provide work permits for up to five million people who are in the United States illegally, and to shield them from deportation. But an official familiar with the administration’s deliberations said on Tuesday that such people would not be eligible for subsidized, low-cost plans from the government’s health insurance marketplace, HealthCare.gov.
Emergency rooms will still be forced to take them. They cannot be turned away. People will subsidize them the same way we always have with a hidden tax via higher insurance premiums.
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