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re: Computer Poll Avg. Strength of Schedule for CFP's Top 7; Baylor Odd Man Out
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:43 pm to KosmoCramer
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:43 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Never said that. Just pointed out that saying "you would def be undefeated with States OOC schedule" is incorrect. If you lose to Va Tech by 14, you can lose to UAB
UAB > Va Tech
carry on
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:44 pm to VABuckeye
quote:I am on the MSB. When I see something incorrect, I respond. Team affiliation should have nothing to do with this argument. However, your team affiliation seems to be blinding you here
You know it's bad when an LSU fan is making arguments for Mississippi fricking State in football.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:44 pm to lsupride87
Did you watch Va Tech vs Ohio State?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:44 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Yes
Did you watch Va Tech vs Ohio State?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:45 pm to lsupride87
I don't believe you, but that's fine.
Carry on.
UAB > or = Va Tech
Carry on.
UAB > or = Va Tech
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:47 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Nope, I think Va tech is a little better then UAB. Still doesnt change the fact you have been incorrect in your main argument the entire time
UAB > or = Va Tech
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:47 pm to lsupride87
quote:
However, your team affiliation seems to be blinding you here
I don't think so. I was at the VA Tech game. It was embarrassing IMO. However the team has certainly improved as much as any team in the country since and Ohio State matches up well. If I didn't believe the progression was there I wouldn't be in this discussion.
Here's how I feel about the SEC west this year. Alabama has come back to the pack. LSU and Auburn are having terrible years. Mississippi and Mississippi State are getting propped up as a result. Do I think they are good teams? Yes. Do I think they are both overrated at this point? Absolutely.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:48 pm to VABuckeye
quote:I agree with almost all you have said here. None of this is what I am arguing though
I don't think so. I was at the VA Tech game. It was embarrassing IMO. However the team has certainly improved as much as any team in the country since and Ohio State matches up well. If I didn't believe the progression was there I wouldn't be in this discussion.
Here's how I feel about the SEC west this year. Alabama has come back to the pack. LSU and Auburn are having terrible years. Mississippi and Mississippi State are getting propped up as a result. Do I think they are good teams? Yes. Do I think they are both overrated at this point? Absolutely
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:48 pm to lsupride87
Oh ok.
UAB >, =, or < Va Tech
I'm glad you made your point, which I don't even know what it is any more.
You basically agree Ohio State would and should win that game even if they play as poorly as they did against Va Tech.
LSU education
UAB >, =, or < Va Tech
I'm glad you made your point, which I don't even know what it is any more.
You basically agree Ohio State would and should win that game even if they play as poorly as they did against Va Tech.
LSU education
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:50 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Nope, I think if Ohio state played like they did against Va Tech they would have a reasonable chance of losing to UAB. Which means the statement, "they would def be undefeated with MSUs schedule" incorrect. I think most would agree
You basically agree Ohio State would and should win that game even if they play as poorly as they did against Va Tech.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:52 pm to lsupride87
There is no definite in college football.
SO basically you were arguing my use of the word definitely as opposed to supremely likely.
Gotcha.
That was worth it, for sure.
SO basically you were arguing my use of the word definitely as opposed to supremely likely.
Gotcha.
That was worth it, for sure.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:52 pm to KosmoCramer
The problem UAB has is that they don't have the athletes to play the scheme that VA Tech did on defense effectively. If they did then yes they could have beaten Ohio State on that night. I don't think they do though.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:54 pm to VABuckeye
They don't have the DC with the ingenuity and experience to pull it off either, which was my other point.
That was a really bad tangent, I have no idea why he felt the need to parse words.
It's the uppity LSU edumaction coming out.
That was a really bad tangent, I have no idea why he felt the need to parse words.
It's the uppity LSU edumaction coming out.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:57 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:No, you made it a point to say you would be undefeated with MSUs OOC schedule. Giving the fact you lost to a very bad team at home, I think that is incorrect to say and assume when there is a very similar team on MSUs schedule. I am fine to say TCU wouldnt lose with States OOC schedule, because their loss is to a good team, not a terrible one.
They don't have the DC with the ingenuity and experience to pull it off either, which was my other point.
That was a really bad tangent, I have no idea why he felt the need to parse words.
It's the uppity LSU edumaction coming out.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 3:59 pm to lsupride87
Which words should I have used?
Probably would have
Most likely would have
Extremely likely
I'll go back and edit my damn post if it means that much to yah. Just tell me what you want it to say.
Probably would have
Most likely would have
Extremely likely
I'll go back and edit my damn post if it means that much to yah. Just tell me what you want it to say.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:01 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Possibly. You could possibly be undefeated if you played MSU out of conference schedule. So basically, there is no point in using it as an arguing point for your team. It was an arguing point when Michigan state used it, because their loss was to an actual good team out of conference. When your loss is to bad team out of conference, it doesnt make sense
Which words should I have used?
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:03 pm to lsupride87
I hate you.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:03 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:
I hate you.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:09 pm to VABuckeye
quote:
The problem UAB has is that they don't have the athletes to play the scheme that VA Tech did on defense effectively.
I agree completely. No comparison between UAB and Va Tech no matter what the computer's say insofar as the "threat" they pose to upset a top team.
However, this is where one has to also give full credit for beating an Auburn or LSU since those teams are stacked with talent.
Even if they've lost to other SEC teams they can still easily beat anyone (like who would really be shocked if Auburn beats Alabama even in Tuscaloosa in a couple of weeks?) any given Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 11/19/14 at 4:13 pm to wm72
quote:
However, this is where one has to also give full credit for beating an Auburn or LSU since those teams are stacked with talent.
To a point I agree, but Michigan doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt (not saying LSU and Michigan are equal) because Michigan has had top 5-10 classes the past 3 or 4.
When you start playing that card, it gets a bit more murky.
The bottom line, Ohio State should have beaten Va Tech and didn't. If they get left out, it will suck but it is what it is.
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