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Question about the nuclear option
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:05 am
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:05 am
I thought it made it to where you only needed a majority vote not 60. Keystone did not pass cause it did not get 60. What am I missing. TIA.
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Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:07 am to BayouBndt
the nuclear option rule was changed for executive appointment votes only
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:16 am to BayouBndt
The nuclear option just changed the senate rule stating that you need 60 votes to end debate or filibuster. It didn't change how many votes you actually need to pass any legislation or appointments.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:17 am to jamboybarry
Thanks
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:21 am to MamouTiger65
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The nuclear option just changed the senate rule stating that you need 60 votes to end debate or filibuster
For federal appointments (judges), not legislation.
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. It didn't change how many votes you actually need to pass any legislation or appointments.
It doesn't take 60 for a bill to pass. It takes 60 to beat the filibuster.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:28 am to moneyg
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It doesn't take 60 for a bill to pass. It takes 60 to beat the filibuster.
Didn't mean to imply it did.
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For federal appointments (judges), not legislation.
This part is true at least for now. Reid said it wasn't off the table to change it for legislation too. The nuclear option itself refers to using a simple majority instead of 2/3 to change senate rules. They used it this time to for appointments, but it could just as easily be done for debate on legislation.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:30 am to jamboybarry
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the nuclear option rule
The cloture rule. There is no "nuclear option rule"
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was changed for executive appointment votes only
Except SCOTUS appointments.
It would be bad for the Republicans to entirely end cloture rule now. The advantage a party gains from that will be fleeting - essentially limited to one Congress. So they'd want to maximize the gains they can achieve by ending cloture - and with a Democrat in the White House - those gains could be minimal.
This post was edited on 11/19/14 at 8:32 am
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:33 am to jamboybarry
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the nuclear option rule was changed for executive appointment votes only
Nothing say the GOP could not change this rule to apply to anything, and then ram through a bunch of shite. However, they won't do that, and may well change the appointments rule back.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 8:34 am to udtiger
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Nothing say the GOP could not change this rule to apply to anything, and then ram through a bunch of shite. However, they won't do that, and may well change the appointments rule back.
Yeah they could change it however they want for whatever McConnell wants to bring to a vote. They won't though
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