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Has Israel ever started a round of hostilities?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:18 pm
It seems like we live in a bizzaro world where Israel is basically this chilled out neighbor if you leave them alone, yet every 6 months or so they start getting rockets launched at their civilians' homes, suffer a disco bombing, or now a machete attack in the sanctuary of a Temple.
Now they will (justifiably) avenge those deaths, the Muslims will cry foul and step up their attacks, and the detente will end until public outcry forces Israel to slow their roll and "allow the poor Palestinians to live in peace".
So sick of this retarded cycle. So the question - has Israel ever started this shite?
Now they will (justifiably) avenge those deaths, the Muslims will cry foul and step up their attacks, and the detente will end until public outcry forces Israel to slow their roll and "allow the poor Palestinians to live in peace".
So sick of this retarded cycle. So the question - has Israel ever started this shite?
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:19 pm to SirWinston
This will go over well
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:19 pm to SirWinston
Trackfan is going to break his keyboard responding to this shite
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:19 pm to SirWinston
In 
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:21 pm to jamboybarry
Well at the very least can we get even the pro-Palestine people to admit that THEY started this and that THEY started the rocket attacks 6 months ago?
Or do they revert to the double speak of "Israel oppressing and violating blah blah blah".
Or do they revert to the double speak of "Israel oppressing and violating blah blah blah".
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:27 pm to SirWinston
You can reasonably argue that Israel was provoked or even justified in 1967 but you can't argue who launched the surprise attack that destroyed the Egyptian air force on the ground.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:29 pm to shinerfan
Okay but I mean in the past 5 years or so 
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:29 pm to SirWinston
quote:
Has Israel ever started a round of hostilities?
"Everybody sees a difficulty in the question of relations between Arabs and Jews. But not everybody sees that there is no solution to this question. No solution! There is a gulf, and nothing can bridge it… We, as a nation, want this country to be ours; the Arabs, as a nation, want this country to be theirs."
David Ben-Gurion
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:45 pm to SirWinston
I don't think anyone would deny that Israel initiated combat operations in 1956 and 1967. What people argue over is whether Israel had legitimate cause to initiate combat.
In both 1956 and 1967 the Egyptians acted in manners that were hostile to Israel, but were short of armed conflict. Israel reacted to those hostile acts with armed force.
In both 1956 and 1967 the Egyptians acted in manners that were hostile to Israel, but were short of armed conflict. Israel reacted to those hostile acts with armed force.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:49 pm to SirWinston
quote:No, never. Therefore, continue to give your hard-earned money to them to help protect them from the evil slum dwellers.
Has Israel ever started a round of hostilities?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:52 pm to SirWinston
"We are the aggressors, and they defend themselves." - David Ben-Gurion
Posted on 11/18/14 at 3:58 pm to SirWinston
Israel is rarely the true aggressor. But Israel also takes action knowing it will lead to further provocation.
Nonetheless, the way the media handled the overnight news of the slaughter is abhorrent and should offend even ardent Israel critics.
Nonetheless, the way the media handled the overnight news of the slaughter is abhorrent and should offend even ardent Israel critics.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:29 pm to Pettifogger
In The Six Day War Israel launched a surprise attack.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:31 pm to SirWinston
The water is chummed.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 4:38 pm to SirWinston
quote:Define "this."
Well at the very least can we get even the pro-Palestine people to admit that THEY started this and that THEY started the rocket attacks 6 months ago?
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:10 pm to Iosh
quote:
Define "this."
Kind of proves my point. Unless you read Drudge or watch Fox News you haven't heard of what happened. It's bullshite.
And all of you guys citing shite from the 1950's and 1960's - I clearly specified within the last 5 to 10 years. Can anybody name an instance where Israel has blatantly started a period of violence with acts or terrorism or overt military aggression? My thesis is that it is quite literally ALWAYS the Palestinians / Muslims.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:18 pm to SirWinston
Osirak in '81.
Not in your OP
quote:
And all of you guys citing shite from the 1950's and 1960's - I clearly specified within the last 5 to 10 years.
Not in your OP
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:18 pm to SirWinston
quote:
My thesis is that it is quite literally ALWAYS the Palestinians / Muslims.
Your thesis is not plausible.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:25 pm to SirWinston
quote:
And all of you guys citing shite from the 1950's and 1960's - I clearly specified within the last 5 to 10 years.
Well I'd have to say, I totally missed that specification.
In the last 5-10?
No. Israel has been on the receiving end far far far more often.
Not universally, i.e., West Bank issues; but in the vast majority of instances, they been in a defensive role. Looking at the last 5-10 yrs is naive IMO, though.
Posted on 11/18/14 at 5:27 pm to SirWinston
This is an oversimplified way of looking at it, but I see the point you're making.
I'll be home in a bit and respond.
Or I'll be playing XBox cause what we discuss here doesn't affect anything.
I'll be home in a bit and respond.
Or I'll be playing XBox cause what we discuss here doesn't affect anything.
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 5:28 pm
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