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re: Quick reminder: this game will have no effect on recruiting.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:13 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:13 pm to ShortyRob
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Man. That we have nothing coming in this year is HUGE!!
AJ is NOT the answer under any version of "answer". If BH really is a problem work wise, having nothing arriving till 2016 most certainly IS a big f'n problem.
Agree 100%. I feel for him. He's a good kid and a hard worker, but he's trying to do something he can't. I really think it's a maturity issue. He's never had to work for anything before and now that he has to, he doesn't want to put in the effort necessary.
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Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:18 pm to BobBarker
quote:Again, I'd buy this, but we also had another highly rated QB behind this abortion of a QB.
I really think it's a maturity issue. He's never had to work for anything before and now that he has to, he doesn't want to put in the effort necessary.
They can't ALL be head cases AND, well, um, coaching up head cases is why you pay Les what you pay him too.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:28 pm to ShortyRob
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Again, I'd buy this, but we also had another highly rated QB behind this abortion of a QB.
They can't ALL be head cases AND, well, um, coaching up head cases is why you pay Les what you pay him too.
Rettig wasn't very good. Always struggled in scrimmages and practice. Couldn't take a snap from under center. His was just a case of not being talented enough.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:33 pm to BobBarker
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Rettig wasn't very good. Always struggled in scrimmages and practice. Couldn't take a snap from under center. His was just a case of not being talented enough.
I'm sorry. If it is in act true that our most recent 3 QBs are
1)Worst starter in major college football
2)Head case that can't beat out the worst starter in college football
3)QB that had LESS talent than worst starter in college football
then, THAT is pretty much proof that our coach is the worst QB talent evaluator in the history of the sport.
Even if one buys the whole "Perriloux screwed us" rhetotoric from before, this would mean that at recruiting kids straight out of HS, Miles has COMPLETELY whiffed. COMPLETELY!!!
That's not even fricking possible. YOU could throw darts at a board of 4 stars and do better.
We're screwed.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:34 pm to BobBarker
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Rettig wasn't very good. Always struggled in scrimmages and practice. Couldn't take a snap from under center. His was just a case of not being talented enough.
truth.... he was a nice dude, had a smoking hot girlfriend, but the dude was NOT a good QB...
i really think because he was white, some here were willing to overlook the fact that he wasn't that talented, but in the end, he just wasn't good enough to overtake AJ...
Posted on 11/16/14 at 12:36 pm to chRxis
quote:Oh for frick's sake. Stop it with that "because he's white" shite. 99.9% of the people calling for Harris probably wonder how any QB could be worse than AJ.....white or black.
i really think because he was white, some here were willing to overlook the fact that he wasn't that talented, but in the end, he just wasn't good enough to overtake AJ...
Jeebus.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:33 pm to ShortyRob
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Stop it with that "because he's white" shite.
i'm just posting what i've perceived... in my experience, both IRL and on this forum, it seemed to me, IMO, that many were rooting for him to win the position even though they hadn't actually seen him at practice or heard about his progression.... the only known factor was he was white and was in the running for the starting QB position at LSU...
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:51 pm to chRxis
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i'm just posting what i've perceived... in my experience, both IRL and on this forum, it seemed to me, IMO, that many were rooting for him to win the position even though they hadn't actually seen him at practice or heard about his progression.
Me thinks your perception is pre-conceived.
People are clamoring for BH and you don't assume race(cause you can't) but when they hope the white guy beats out Mr. So So, you assume race.
Maybe people just became concerned after the bowl game and hoped the other kid who had been in the program would turn out to be better(rather than hope to rely on the true freshman)?
You're seeing race because you EXPECT to see race.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:01 pm to BobBarker
This is about the dumbest statement one can make? I guess guys like Collins, Duval, Williams, and Robinson left the state and went to Bama because wins, losses and NC mean nothing?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:04 pm to bdnc
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This is about the dumbest statement one can make? I guess guys like Collins, Duval, Williams, and Robinson left the state and went to Bama because wins, losses and NC mean nothing?
Collins went to Bama to follow some pussy, Devall went because he fits there system really well, Robinson because they consistently have o-lineman drafted in the first round, and we stopped recruiting Tim Williams.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:04 pm to ShortyRob
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You're seeing race because you EXPECT to see race.
no, i saw race because it was explicitly said, IRL, a couple of times...
when i hear "i hope the white kid beats that other one out", what would you infer?
as for me, i didn't care who won it, as long as they were good... from what i saw personally, he wasn't good... white, brown, yellow, polka dotted, whatever... he wasn't a good QB...
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:08 pm to BobBarker
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Collins went to Bama to follow some pussy, Devall went because he fits there system really well, Robinson because they consistently have o-lineman drafted in the first round, and we stopped recruiting Tim Williams.
You’re convincing yourself and no other sentient being. So, Collins would have gone to Vanderbilt for pussy?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:15 pm to BobBarker
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Recruits do not care about W/L unless you're going 4-8 or 3-9. They care more about relationships with their recruiter, playing time, NFL draft history, atmosphere, and white women than an individual loss or win.
So that also means they don't care about fans being negative on message boards either, right?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:20 pm to Open Your Eyes
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So that also means they don't care about fans being negative on message boards either, right?
For the most part, no. Now if you start to mention them by name I think it could. Just look at ol Lester Earl. He got called out by Derrius Guice on Twitter not to long ago. But they know that this is all just fans bitching.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:21 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Recruits do not care about W/L unless you’re going 4-8 or 3-9.
I hope you realize this makes no logical sense? But it is funny!!!
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:34 pm to chRxis
quote:Just because SOME people who think a thing think it because or race doesn't mean all or even the majority of those who share the belief also believe it because of race. You do realize that, right?
no, i saw race because it was explicitly said, IRL, a couple of times...
quote:Well, I might infer it was about race.
when i hear "i hope the white kid beats that other one out", what would you infer?
Of course, it's also the easiest descriptor.
In any case, I hoped Rettig would beat him out too.
I hoped so because I think having to hope the true freshman is the ready is dangerous and so, Rettig was the most experienced potential replacement and he had good recruiting data.
So, I guess I hoped the white kid would win, but only because well, the other kid didn't seem so good.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:39 pm to ShortyRob
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doesn't mean all or even the majority of those who share the belief also believe it because of race. You do realize that, right?
i do.... which is why i NEVER ONCE said it was a majority of fans that felt this way.... i said SOME... you are, for whatever in the frick reason, polarizing what i said, making it seem like everyone was rooting for the white dude....
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:59 pm to BobBarker
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Our best recruiting classes have usually come during pretty down years. Like the 09 and 10 classes, which where the whole reason we played in the NC in 2011, signed after 5 and 4 loss seasons where our QB's played like AIDS. In contrast, we had our worst class during the great 2011 season. Recruits do not care about W/L unless you're going 4-8 or 3-9. They care more about relationships with their recruiter, playing time, NFL draft history, atmosphere, and white women than an individual loss or win.
The hell it won't have an affect. The top players that are smart pay attention at what you do, not what you say or promise. Guys like Tyrone Johnson, D. Lodge, and others have to question these performances because of there positions.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:47 pm to ShortyRob
I wouldn't be surprised if we lose some top offensive skill players because of this season's anemic performance.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 5:25 pm to MrWillie
quote:It's not just the performance. A reasonable recruit could simply think, "shite, they have two QBs. One is a known horrible and the other isn't beating him out!!
I wouldn't be surprised if we lose some top offensive skill players because of this season's anemic performance.
If that holds, a reasonable recruit could concur that a minimum of two more horrible offensive years are in the offing
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