- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Picked up my ecodiesel today!
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:25 pm to LSUlefty
Posted on 11/16/14 at 1:25 pm to LSUlefty
quote:
The kicker is mpg while pulling a boat.
Most peolple who are worried about towing mileage are going to buy a bigger diesel. I would bet that most people that own 1/2 ton pick-up might tow 20-30% of the time at most.
1
Posted on 11/16/14 at 2:17 pm to tipup
I just want to know that is will pull well enough for a boat and/or small camper
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:45 pm to Ice Cream Sammich
quote:
. Sams was $3.40 today
That is about .70 cents more than I can buy gas.
20 mpg gas cost .135 cents per mile (2.70 gas).
Diesel has to get 25.18 mpg to break even on the fuel cost. That doesn' t count any savings toward the diesel engine cost. If you get 27 mpg and the net additional upfront cost for the engine is $2850 then you need to save 838 gallons of fuel. With a mpg differential of 1.82 mpg it will take 242 miles to save a gallon. It will take 202796 miles to break even on the upfront cost of the motor. (I think I did that right).
There might be some operating cost savings or some other performance issues but it stills looks like a gimmick to me. No real cost advantage at all.
Buying an "ecodiesel" to save fuel does not equate to saving money.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:54 pm to I B Freeman
No it doesn't. The advantage is that you get a diesel and the additional power that goes with it.
Over the life of the vehicle you will almost definitely come out behind vs a comparably equipped gasser.
Over the life of the vehicle you will almost definitely come out behind vs a comparably equipped gasser.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:55 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
No it doesn't. The advantage is that you get a diesel and the additional power that goes with it.
The diesel doesn't have more power than the Hemi V8. It's tow rating is also less than the Hemi.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 3:58 pm to Coppertone
What's the split on the two?
I bet the diesel pulls as good or better. They almost always have much better towing characteristics than gas engines. Maybe not in this case though. I'm not too familiar with the ecodiesel.
You'll see similar MPG with substantially higher torque numbers in the next generation of light duty diesels.
I bet the diesel pulls as good or better. They almost always have much better towing characteristics than gas engines. Maybe not in this case though. I'm not too familiar with the ecodiesel.
You'll see similar MPG with substantially higher torque numbers in the next generation of light duty diesels.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:11 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
What's the split on the two?
eco-diesel - 9,200
Hemi - 10,400
quote:
I bet the diesel pulls as good or better. They almost always have much better towing characteristics than gas engines. Maybe not in this case though. I'm not too familiar with the ecodiesel.
This is the first modern diesel 1/2-ton in the U.S., so there is no basis for comparison. In the past, 3/4 diesels were compared with less than stellar gas "equivalents". So, of course the diesel is going to tow better.
quote:
You'll see similar MPG with substantially higher torque numbers in the next generation of light duty diesels.
That's the natural progression of technology brah.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:20 pm to Coppertone
The diesel has more TQ than the Hemi. You know, the important power number. shite, my 6.2 had more HP than my 6.7 but that 850 TQ makes a difference.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:24 pm to bonescanner
nice. my only complaint is the payload capacity--it's a true 1500. I need closer to 2000, but maybe some mods would get me there.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:24 pm to Coppertone
The next one is going to be a 5 liter v8 putting down about 500 ft-lbs.
I wonder what the weight difference between the Eco diesel and hemi is?
I wonder what the weight difference between the Eco diesel and hemi is?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:24 pm to Coppertone
quote:
The diesel doesn't have more power than the Hemi V8. It's tow rating is also less than the Hemi.
The diesel makes more peak torque and the hemi makes more peak HP...which is common comparing diesel vs. gas anyway.
And as far as cost of ownership...you can run the numbers to where the diesel is cheaper in the long run and vice versa.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:30 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
I wonder what the weight difference between the Eco diesel and hemi is?
Fully dressed Ecodiesel is 507 lbs; Hemi is 485 lbs without the accessories...trying to find a fully dressed weight right now.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:31 pm to McLemore
Air bags is all you need
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:35 pm to jordan21210
Nice.
I wonder who designed the aftertreatment system? Fiat?
I wonder who designed the aftertreatment system? Fiat?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:37 pm to McLemore
Just a heads up - mods won't increase your payload. Payload is base on many factors - axle weight ratings, springs/shocks, frame ratings, brake ability to stop the load and so on. Sure mods - new shocks, air bags, stiff E rated tires ) will help with the weight but you still have a GAWR, GVWR and GVCWR that you need to stay under. Example - adding air bags to raise the rear end when under a load does nothing to strengthen your frame or axles or help your brakes stop the load.
Do people pull/haul more than a 150/1500 owners' manual says that they should....sure and for a few times a year and short distances that's not a big issue. 150/1500 series truck run out of payload way before reaching the maximum tow weight but that's a different thread (go check truck message boards) I'm just giving you a heads up for your safety and safety of others. my f150 XLT 4x4 has a payload of 1469lbs and a GVWR of 7350lbs. ford offers a HD payload and Max tow pkg for f150s to get to the 2000lb payload. Unless dodge does also, you are in 2500 territory for those weights.
Do people pull/haul more than a 150/1500 owners' manual says that they should....sure and for a few times a year and short distances that's not a big issue. 150/1500 series truck run out of payload way before reaching the maximum tow weight but that's a different thread (go check truck message boards) I'm just giving you a heads up for your safety and safety of others. my f150 XLT 4x4 has a payload of 1469lbs and a GVWR of 7350lbs. ford offers a HD payload and Max tow pkg for f150s to get to the 2000lb payload. Unless dodge does also, you are in 2500 territory for those weights.
This post was edited on 11/16/14 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
I wonder who designed the aftertreatment system? Fiat?
Can't find anything saying exactly, but I was assume it was in-house...so VM Motori, which is still technically Fiat.
If you're bored, here is pretty much every spec available on the motor: LINK
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:42 pm to SeaPickle
quote:
Just a heads up - mods won't increase your payload.
this.
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:43 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
The next one is going to be a 5 liter v8 putting down about 500 ft-lbs.
Source?
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:44 pm to Coppertone
He's speculating
Posted on 11/16/14 at 4:47 pm to KingRanch
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News