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History Thread: Presidential Generations and other trivia
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:05 pm
Just something I noticed recently - NO "silent generation" President - and unlikely to ever be, now, as there have been 3 2-term Baby Boomer Presidents in a row. Millenials will be coming of age (barely) in 2016, but if we get a 2-term boomer or the first Gen-X President in 2016, the younger remaining silent generation folks will be hitting their 80s (and even 90s) by the time 2020 and 2026 comes around.
The Greatest Generation (or G.I. Generation) produced, 7 consecutive Presidents serving for 32 years. Boomers are on track to equal that tenure in years, again, if they get either an older boomer (HRC/Romney/Warren) or a younger one (Rand Paul) and re-elect him or her in 2020. But that will be only 4 Presidents. Biden (born 1942) would be about the last gasp of any silent generation candidate.
Looking back, the Post-Bellum group counts 5 (or 6, if you count Ike - he's kind of a tweener), but the only generational group that remotely approaches the Greatest Generation's success in number of Presidents is the Civil War generation, which had 8 born from 1822 to to 1943 (by order of birth, Grant through McKinley), but a lot of 1-termers in there (and 2 assassinated - another tidbit - we've only had 4 assassinated and another 4 die in office, but all 4 were assassinated in a period of 98 years, from 1865 to 1963, and 2 were from this group) - much different from today, where 2 terms (at least in some form) is the norm.
Another way to look at it is - out of 44 Presidents, 15 or over 1 out of 3 were born in just 2 generations - Civil War and Greatest Generation -and both of those generations were defined by the 2 most significant wars we've been involved in as a country, at least by scope of the conflict.
The Greatest Generation (or G.I. Generation) produced, 7 consecutive Presidents serving for 32 years. Boomers are on track to equal that tenure in years, again, if they get either an older boomer (HRC/Romney/Warren) or a younger one (Rand Paul) and re-elect him or her in 2020. But that will be only 4 Presidents. Biden (born 1942) would be about the last gasp of any silent generation candidate.
Looking back, the Post-Bellum group counts 5 (or 6, if you count Ike - he's kind of a tweener), but the only generational group that remotely approaches the Greatest Generation's success in number of Presidents is the Civil War generation, which had 8 born from 1822 to to 1943 (by order of birth, Grant through McKinley), but a lot of 1-termers in there (and 2 assassinated - another tidbit - we've only had 4 assassinated and another 4 die in office, but all 4 were assassinated in a period of 98 years, from 1865 to 1963, and 2 were from this group) - much different from today, where 2 terms (at least in some form) is the norm.
Another way to look at it is - out of 44 Presidents, 15 or over 1 out of 3 were born in just 2 generations - Civil War and Greatest Generation -and both of those generations were defined by the 2 most significant wars we've been involved in as a country, at least by scope of the conflict.
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 1:34 pm
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Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:06 pm to Ace Midnight
Look at my big, smug Dick.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:09 pm to Schwartz
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Look at my big, smug Dick.
Would be a Silent Generation, but Vice President, acting president or shadow president does not count, sorry.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:11 pm to Ace Midnight
So did you have a question in there?
I can't wait until we stop electing baby boomer presidents.
I'd love to see a really young president and what they do.
I can't wait until we stop electing baby boomer presidents.
I'd love to see a really young president and what they do.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:14 pm to fr33manator
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So did you have a question in there?
No - just posting it for discussion.
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I can't wait until we stop electing baby boomer presidents.
Rand Paul is technically a boomer on many charts, although quite a late one. I think 2016 will be the last campaign dominated by boomer candidates, though. 2020 or 2024 should see the older Xers reaching their mid 50s and 60s and should run well in 4 to 7 election cycles, as the youngest Xers are mid-30s right now.
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:29 pm to Ace Midnight
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Silent Generation is a label for the generation of people born during the Great Depression and World War II.[1] The label was originally applied to people in North America but has also been applied to those in Western Europe, Australasia and South America. It includes most of those who fought during the Korean War. In the United States, the generation was comparatively small because the financial insecurity of the 1920s and 1930s caused people to have fewer children.[2]
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While there were many civil rights leaders (such as Martin Luther King, Jr.), writers (such as Gloria Steinem), and artists (such as the Beat Generation), the Silent Generation is called that because many focused on their careers rather than on activism, and people in it were largely encouraged to conform with social norms. Time Magazine coined the name in a 1951 article entitled The Younger Generation, and the name has stuck ever since.[2][
I had to look.
This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 11/15/14 at 1:54 pm to Ace Midnight
Posted on 11/15/14 at 2:15 pm to Notro
Tyler had 15 children, though - 
Another interesting note - the living children of Presidents only go back to the 1940s.
Obviously, the grand and great grandchildren are in the scores now, probably hundreds. And it goes exponentionally from there.
Some may be familiar with this actress:
She had small parts in Mona Lisa Smile and the 2011 remake of Arthur - she is Jennie Eisenhower, the daughter of Julie Nixon and David Eisenhower (Ike's grandson), making her Ike's great-granddaughter and Nixon's granddaughter - a rare example of someone in the public eye with not 1, but 2 presidents in the family tree.
(ETA: And a Gen-Xer -
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Another interesting note - the living children of Presidents only go back to the 1940s.
Obviously, the grand and great grandchildren are in the scores now, probably hundreds. And it goes exponentionally from there.
Some may be familiar with this actress:
She had small parts in Mona Lisa Smile and the 2011 remake of Arthur - she is Jennie Eisenhower, the daughter of Julie Nixon and David Eisenhower (Ike's grandson), making her Ike's great-granddaughter and Nixon's granddaughter - a rare example of someone in the public eye with not 1, but 2 presidents in the family tree.
(ETA: And a Gen-Xer -
)This post was edited on 11/15/14 at 2:16 pm
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