When can we expect the first lib talking points to come out regarding gruber?

No matter what those talking points are, "stupid American voters" will still believe them.....because they ARE "stupid American voters".

One that I've heard is that he really wasn't the architect he is portrayed as. So the question is who was, what was Gruber's role, and are the points he is making still the truth about was going on behind the scenes of those that did craft the bill.

He spent 4 hours with Obama discussing the bill in the west wing. Hard to say the guy was a nobody...

Nudge and a wink.

The talking points are that everyone knew it was a lie. Everyone was in on the lie. Nudge nudge, wink wink, say no more, say no more.

Hard to jibe that with Gruber's statements. He didn't think everyone was in on the joke. He just thought the electorate was dumber than a bag of hammers.

So Gruber exposed how legislation is passed. ... but Obozo is in the executive branch

Fail nyt

They're pushing the following:

1. He didn't draft the law

2. He's a political idiot/nincompoop

3. He worked with Romney first

4. The law was debated and all of this was discussed for months.

5. We're better off with the law, so the ends justify the means.


I don't see them going much further and none of these should stick. It's bad for the Dems - worse than Benghazi, spying on reporters, F&F and the IRS, for sure.

Everybody does it. You think we invented lying? Why in fact, our President is the most transparently transparent historic first black President ever, you misogynistic racist! Horse elevator!

You have not noticed them around here

This would be a great ad for cassidy. Landrieu voted for this and thinks that we are not only racist but very very stupid. One final nail in her coffin?

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After five minutes -- the time it took anyone with an IQ above single digits to stop laughing -- the libs realized that they'd have to come up with something else not so quite retarded.

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I think the left is frustrated and exhausted - they're frustrated because the sheeple won't blindly trust them anymore and exhausted from having to defend their tyrannical and anti-democratic policies.

Republicans (for all their faults) run proudly on their ideals, platform, values (and then fail to live up to them, IMHO) - Democrats on the other hand would be largely unelectable if they ran on exactly the policies they intended to pursue - they know this and intentionally lie, mislead, trick, bait and switch, etc.

Obamacare may be a gift in that respect, as Americans cannot pretend that the Dems will be remotely truthful about the intent or effect of their policies. They expect something to gain ground (i.e. Social Security) then become irreversible, despite how big, bloated, inefficient, expansive and expensive it gets.

They would do the same with guns, energy, food, just the entire range of activities they want to control "for our own good" - all the while denying it, "We don't want to take anyone's guns", "We don't want to tell people what to eat", etc., when that's exactly what they want to do.