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Facebook says 66% of Android phones it sees have 2011 or older specs
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:02 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:02 am
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With so many different types of phones in the world, being able to segment people and their devices to understand usage patterns and performance is a significant task. Historically we relied on cuts by Android OS version, looking at how Gingerbread behaved differently from Ice Cream Sandwich, how Ice Cream Sandwich behaved differently from Jelly Bean, and so on. However, the recent explosion of affordable Android devices around the world has shifted the median, and the bulk of devices we now see are running Jelly Bean. In order to segment based on actual phone performance we decided to look more closely into the specifications of the phone – RAM, CPU cores, and clock speed – to characterize things. Using these three specifications, we've clustered every phone into a group of similarly capable devices to make understanding performance easier.
We call this new concept “year class” – essentially, in what year would a given device have been considered “high end?" This allows teams around the company to segment the breadth of Android devices into a more understandable set of buckets, and as new phones are released, they're automatically mapped into the representative year. For example, the Alcatel T-Pop I bought at a market in Mexico is immediately recognized as a 2010-class phone, despite its 2012 release. Overall, about two-thirds of the phones connected to Facebook are equivalent to something released in 2011 or earlier.
code.facebook.com
It is cool to see companies analyze data like this to understand their customer base. Now everybody wins if they work to optimize their apps/website to work well on these low end devices.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:04 am to iPadThai
Android standing the test of time
Posted on 11/12/14 at 3:09 am to iPadThai
No mention of Apple huh? Looks like they didn't want to hurt the poor droid users feelings
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:55 am to iPadThai
I think we're going to see more of this for all phones. That incremental upgrade just isn't as big as it was a few years ago.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 8:07 am to UltimateHog
quote:not only that but android 5.0 can run on lower spec phones. No need to upgrade as often as long as the OEMs keep up with updates.
Android standing the test of time
It would suck if I bought a phone that could only handle two years of updates.
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 8:08 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 8:15 am to iPadThai
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Now everybody wins if they work to optimize their apps/website to work well on these low end devices.
Except for everyone with new devices that are pushing the limits. I don't see how you could say that catering to the lowest common denominator is a win for everyone.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 8:39 am to ZereauxSum
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That incremental upgrade just isn't as big as it was a few years ago.
I'd say 5S to 6+ is a pretty damn big jump.
I like their cycle. Just #'s is usually a new design. # and S usually means more software/specific hardware upgrades like the touch ID and ios7 in 5S
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:49 pm to jeff5891
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No need to upgrade as often as long as the OEMs keep up with updates.
As the providers get more competitive on price of their service, with the increasing price of the new phones - people are starting to see it - phones cost $400 to $500 - regardless if you pay that through a contract or up front, or whatever.
SO, if I know the phone is going to cost me $500 - I might stretch my current phone to 3 or even 4 years if it is still working.
This is simple economics and a good thing. No need for a manufacturer to waste money on incremental upgrades just to have a new phone every 12, 18, 24 months - they need to give their customers a compelling reason to buy the new phone - other than the hardcore, latest and greatest group of technosnobs.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 2:55 pm to colorchangintiger
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Except for everyone with new devices that are pushing the limits. I don't see how you could say that catering to the lowest common denominator is a win for everyone.
Android 5.0, if you care to read about it, really appears to be a great marriage. Works well on older hardware (and in some cases, resurrected old devices into usability again) and is a flamethrower on newer hardware. Google did a great job on that update. They really have done a great job of learning from update to update.
This post was edited on 11/13/14 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:38 pm to iPadThai
Let me know what they say about apple in 3 years when 50% of us are still running iOS 7 because 8 makes the device too fricking slow.
Posted on 11/13/14 at 3:50 pm to iPadThai
Aren't Android users supposed to be poor? They just can't afford to buy new phones.
ETA: Android user here
ETA: Android user here
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 11/13/14 at 8:39 pm to Catman88
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Let me know what they say about apple in 3 years when 50% of us are still running iOS 7 because 8 makes the device too fricking slow.
Nice try. Go troll elsewhere.
iOS 8 Now Installed on Nearly 60 Percent of Active iOS Devices
Posted on 11/14/14 at 6:47 am to lsufan_26
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Aren't Android users supposed to be poor?
- That's elitist.
We prefer the term - "Frugal American".
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 6:47 am
Posted on 11/14/14 at 8:55 am to therick711
I know Android 5.0 is great. But you simply can't build for the lowest common denominator AND push all the hardware limits at the same time.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:15 am to Catman88
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Let me know what they say about apple in 3 years when 50% of us are still running iOS 7 because 8 makes the device too fricking slow.
My 6+ is running iOS 8 and this is the fastest iOS i've seen.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 9:41 am to Catman88
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when 50% of us are still running iOS 7 because 8 makes the device too fricking slow.
If you're too poor to keep up you don;t have to upgrade.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 10:23 am to lsufan_26
A 2011 (high end) android should have pretty much equivalent specs to a 2014 iPhone. Just saying
Nfc, 4.7" 720p screen, 1 GB ram etc etc. All old stuff but new to iOS
Nfc, 4.7" 720p screen, 1 GB ram etc etc. All old stuff but new to iOS
Posted on 11/14/14 at 12:46 pm to jennyjones
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A 2011 (high end) android should have pretty much equivalent specs to a 2014 iPhone. Just saying
Nfc, 4.7" 720p screen, 1 GB ram etc etc. All old stuff but new to iOS
Oh really? Do you enjoy spewing ignorant propaganda? Let's look at the top Android phones of 2011 and compare them to the benchmarks of the iPhone 6 and 6+.
Droid RAZR 328 Single-Core, 611 Multi-Core
Samsung Galaxy S II 374 Single-Core, 689 Multi-Core
Galaxy Nexus 370 Single-Core, 683 Multi-Core
Droid Bionic 285 Single-Core, 529 Multi-Core
iPhone 6 1628 Single-Core, 2925 Multi-Core
iPhone 6+ 1630 Single-Core, 2924 Multi-Core
Also, considering that the GPU in the iPhone 6 bests all of the current GPUs found in any other current smartphone in almost all benchmarks, I would say that it is a safe bet to say that it also outperforms 3 year old Android phones as well. Wouldn't you?
About the RAM and how Android phones have historically had 2x the RAM compared to iPhones: LINK
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Servicing RAM uses power. So more memory = more power consumption.
Android apps using Java, recycle released memory using garbage collection.
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What this diagram shows is that garbage collectors are really awesomely fast if you have a relative memory footprint of 4 or 8.
In other words, you need four or eight times more memory, than you are actually using to be super efficient. But when the memory becomes constrained, that performance goes way down.
This is why Android devices have all that RAM.
iOS does not use this style of garbage collection and does not slow down in constrained memory environments.
So 1GB for iOS results in more performance than 3GB for Android.
Just sayin'
This post was edited on 11/14/14 at 2:07 pm
Posted on 11/14/14 at 1:44 pm to colorchangintiger
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So 1GB for iOS results in more performance than 3GB for Android.
Posted on 11/14/14 at 2:06 pm to TigerGman
And before CAD point out that the RAM post is by a guy that states that he is an
quote:note that the post has over 2,700 upvotes, including an upvote from Jeff Harris, the project manager on Google Glass.
acolyte of the cult of the bitten fruit.
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