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Saints Luckiest Team in the NFL?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:56 pm
They lost 4 games this season on the final drive by a FG or less.
They're currently 4-5 and yet are the #4 seed in the NFC and control their own destiny.
They lose two RBs for a few more weeks but find the running game most fans have given up on from Ingram in the process. Plus, they're 1 of 7 NFC Teams with a plus point differential.
How can they not be the luckiest team so far in the NFL? For eveything that's gone wrong I'd say their pretty damn lucky to be in the position they are in currently
They're currently 4-5 and yet are the #4 seed in the NFC and control their own destiny.
They lose two RBs for a few more weeks but find the running game most fans have given up on from Ingram in the process. Plus, they're 1 of 7 NFC Teams with a plus point differential.
How can they not be the luckiest team so far in the NFL? For eveything that's gone wrong I'd say their pretty damn lucky to be in the position they are in currently
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 6:59 pm
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:58 pm to tzimme4
I'd argue they're the unluckiest
Posted on 11/11/14 at 6:59 pm to D011ahbi11
If they're the unluckiest then how are they in the position they're in?
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:01 pm to tzimme4
Unluckiest. 9 points from being 7-1
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:05 pm to tzimme4
Kenpom, a site with advanced analysis of college basketball has a stat that determines how lucky a team is. It's
The saints have been involved in 4 close games and only won 1 of them. 3 Overtime games and only won 1. that's pretty unlucky. If they had a stat like this for the NFL, saints would be at or near the top
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A measure of the deviation between a team’s actual winning percentage and what one would expect from its game-by-game efficiencies. It’s a Dean Oliver invention. Essentially, a team involved in a lot of close games should not win (or lose) all of them. Those that do will be viewed as lucky (or unlucky).
The saints have been involved in 4 close games and only won 1 of them. 3 Overtime games and only won 1. that's pretty unlucky. If they had a stat like this for the NFL, saints would be at or near the top
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:10 pm to D011ahbi11
Any other season with those outcomes the Saints would be eliminated by now. Seeing how bad the division is this year i'd imagine being 4-5 or 8-1 you're still 1st place in the NFC South regardless of seed.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:12 pm to tzimme4
uh...
makes no sense when Ingram was clearly the best RB they had since the Dallas game. Most casual fans gave up on Ingram, but if people actually stopped being biased, he's played exceptionally well since mid-last year.
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They lose two RBs for a few more weeks but find the running game most fans have given up on from Ingram in the process. Plus, they're 1 of 7 NFC Teams with a plus point differential.
makes no sense when Ingram was clearly the best RB they had since the Dallas game. Most casual fans gave up on Ingram, but if people actually stopped being biased, he's played exceptionally well since mid-last year.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:14 pm to tzimme4
They're the luckiest and unluckiest if that is possible
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:21 pm to tzimme4
Nobody would be eliminated with 5 losses.
I won't deny we're lucky that the division sucks, but we've had no luck on the field.
I won't deny we're lucky that the division sucks, but we've had no luck on the field.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:23 pm to tzimme4
I don't see any luck, other than being in the toilet division along with 3 pathetic excuses for football teams.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:28 pm to tzimme4
Yea
Luck is just what describes this whole season.
Luck.
Luck is just what describes this whole season.
Luck.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:45 pm to tigersaint14
quote:My thoughts exactly.
They're the luckiest and unluckiest if that is possible
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:50 pm to tzimme4
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They lost 4 games this season on the final drive by a FG or less.
seemes unlucky
could be 8-1
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:55 pm to SammyTiger
Carolina and Atlanta could be considered lucky by this logic. 3 wins each deep into the season and yet can still win the division
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:00 pm to SammyTiger
Based on DVOA wins projections, The Saints play is consistent with 5.2 wins.
Their schedule is rated as the 19th hardest thus far. The rest of the season they have the 31st ranked schedule strength.
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff
Their schedule is rated as the 19th hardest thus far. The rest of the season they have the 31st ranked schedule strength.
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ESTIMATED WINS uses a statistic known as "Forest Index" that emphasizes consistency as well as DVOA in the most important specific situations: red zone defense, first quarter offense, and performance in the second half when the score is close. It then projects a number of wins adjusted to a league-average schedule and a league-average rate of recovering fumbles. Teams that have had their bye week are projected as if they had played one game per week
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teameff
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:18 pm to tzimme4
So we're like Detroit?
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:20 pm to tzimme4
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They lost 4 games this season on the final drive by a FG or less.
Unlucky.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 12:13 am to SEClint
There is alot of cases were I would rather be lucky than good.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 7:21 am to tzimme4
You are young.
The first 25 years, the Saints were the unluckiest team in the entire league.
The first 25 years, the Saints were the unluckiest team in the entire league.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 8:52 am to D011ahbi11
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I'd argue they're the unluckiest
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