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Legit Officiating question

Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:40 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:40 pm
Ive asked this a couple of times but havent gotten a reply. If the guy that ruled the TD out early is the same guy that called for the touchback, how unfeasible would it be for the SEC teams to take this matter up as legitimate collusion?
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:44 pm to
I'm sure the SEC grades the officials after each game. Les sends in the plays that he wants reviewed. However, the game is over so there is nothing that can be done.
Posted by TaderSalad
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:46 pm to
quote:

I'm sure the SEC grades the officials after each game. Les sends in the plays that he wants reviewed. However, the game is over so there is nothing that can be done.


True. I am just wondering why wouldnt a snitch leak it to one of the talk show hosts on the major networks and let them FoxNews/CNN it into history. Raise a buncha hell about how biased the refs are in the SEC.
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:47 pm to
Sports Illustrated had an article that put most of the blame on the officials for calling that horrible personal foul.
Posted by Mike Linebacker
Texas
Member since Sep 2009
3404 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

True. I am just wondering why wouldnt a snitch leak it to one of the talk show hosts on the major networks and let them FoxNews/CNN it into history. Raise a buncha hell about how biased the refs are in the SEC.


Absent a paper trail, no one will cover it. Frankly, I don't buy the whole SEC refs are corrupt and trying to protect Alabama line. They made some calls against Bama that were borderline too.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

True. I am just wondering why wouldnt a snitch leak it to one of the talk show hosts on the major networks and let them FoxNews/CNN it into history. Raise a buncha hell about how biased the refs are in the SEC.


Because you think of them as snitches.
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

If the guy that ruled the TD out early is the same guy that called for the touchback


I didn't look for a certain official, but this is bad if the same guy is responsible for the missed TD reception, touchback, and the no call on the OT PI. He motioned twice to pull his flag on the OT PI, but didn't throw it.
Posted by TigerScratch
West Monroe
Member since Oct 2005
1310 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:54 pm to
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I don't buy the whole SEC refs are corrupt and trying to protect Alabama line.


Agreed. I think that the SEC has some really bad officials overall.
Posted by samson73103
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 3:56 pm to
Posted by WPBTiger
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

I'm sure the SEC grades the officials after each game.


I know a referee for CUSA. We were talking a few months back about a screw up one of the refs made in the Tulane, FAU game last year (just so happened I was at that game, and he was working it). I asked him what happened to that ref. He said it was not his first mistake and that being the case, he was terminated. I wonder if that ever happens to SEC officials.
Posted by Mulat
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:12 pm to
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Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:16 pm to

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quote:

I didn't look for a certain official, but this is bad if the same guy is responsible for the missed TD reception, touchback, and the no call on the OT PI. He motioned twice to pull his flag on the OT PI, but didn't throw it.


FWIW, the guy was on the same side of the field for both calls... I just dont know if they switch at the half

This post was edited on 11/10/14 at 4:18 pm
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:26 pm to
Bama is least penalized team in the SECI will ask your question a different way. IF there is an officiating bias when it comes to Bama, what good will it do to complain to the league office? Alabama is clearly the least penalized team in the league. I am curious how many subjective calls, such as holding, pass interference are called against Alabama as compared for Alabama.

If in fact, the head of officiating is a Bama grad what good will it do to complain to the SEC office?

Granted Bama has been one of the best teams in the country over the last 5 years, but they certainly seem to benefit more often than not on the subjective calls.
Posted by cheapseat
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2004
6288 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 4:53 pm to
If the Dupre blown call would not have been overturned , the facemask that was not called on the play would have saved the TD. Two obvious blown calls on one LSU player on one play! At some point its not coincidence any more.
Posted by samson73103
Krypton
Member since Nov 2008
8136 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 5:52 pm to
www.cfstats.com

LSU only averages about one penalty per game and five more yards than Alabama. Could it be Bama is just a little more disciplined?
Posted by ALWho
Earth
Member since Oct 2014
612 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:03 pm to
"........I asked him what happened to that ref. He said it was not his first mistake and that being the case, he was terminated. I wonder if that ever happens to SEC officials."

Either they are disciplined through some type of procedure or moved to the NFL.
Posted by lsufanz
NOLA
Member since Dec 2008
4726 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:19 pm to
Certainly possible! I don't know of many games that I watch, and I watch way too many, where I don't see a few calls that I believe to be either questionable or flat out wrong. This one was no exception, but at least a couple could have been called on LSU as well. The fact that the questionable calls came at such critical points in the game is what fans the flames, I believe.

I intend to watch the game again when I get a chance so that I can rewind and slow-mo where needed, but the results will not change. I'm afraid that the style of football that LSU plays leaves very little margin for error against really good or evenly matched teams and that played out on Saturday. A couple of passes caught rather than dropped, take the first down with your legs in OT, MLB not going down on the play before a 3rd and 18 up the middle...
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10976 posts
Posted on 11/10/14 at 6:20 pm to
I swear to God: people who think officials are some kind of paragons of virtue that, because they dress like zebras, are devoid of all human foibles and weaknesses just don't inhabit the same planet I do or have never played in a high stakes game managed by officials.

I mean really, do you think those guys cloister themselves with a rule book and are never affected by the media onslaughts about 'big games', 'big teams', 'big coaches', et cetera, ad nuaseum?

They are human and just like every human before them they are imperfect and, yes, biased.
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