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What about the nuclear option?

Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:45 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:45 pm
If the republicans win control of the Senate, will they want to rescind the nuclear option the democrats approved earlier? Gonna be interesting to see who will stand on their original arguments and who will flip flop for politic's sake...
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17260 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:47 pm to
I would be pretty shocked if they rescind but, depending on how many seats they picked up and how united they are as a faction, they may symbolically "repeal" it, knowing they can always use it later.

But, yeah, that cat's out of the bag. It's "precedent" now.

Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 10:50 pm to
quote:

Gonna be interesting to see who will stand on their original arguments and who will flip flop for politic's sake...


R's argued not to change it in the 1st place... They never argued to change it back.

You're not comparing apples and oranges

ETA: Also the nuclear option only pertains to nominees, I don't see the dems trying to filibuster with those regards
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 10:53 pm
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:00 pm to
quote:

R's argued not to change it in the 1st place.


That's the thrust of my comment. If the republicans were so adamant in not changing it for the reasons stated at the time, it would seem logical, that on principle alone, they would want to return to the original rules. And if the democrats were so adamant in changing the rules for the reasons stated at the time, they should be quite content in leaving the rules as they currently exist. If the republicans win, I think we're all going to see 100 flip floppers.
Posted by Paluka
One State Over
Member since Dec 2010
10763 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:04 pm to
I agree with what you're saying. They ought to change it back to the way it was.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16875 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:10 pm to
Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29412 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:14 pm to
I can't wait to hear the Democraps reasonings to change it back to the way it was.

Can you imagine changing the rules of the game when you're the majority, and then complaining about the rules you instituted when you're in the minority. Only the libs could come up with this.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7710 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:22 pm to
quote:

I can't wait to hear the Democraps reasonings to change it back to the way it was.

Can you imagine changing the rules of the game when you're the majority, and then complaining about the rules you instituted when you're in the minority.


Exactly. If Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg retires,for example, the nuclear option is gonna bite somebody if the republicans win...or lose.

This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 11:23 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:24 pm to
It doesnt really matter as it is for appts and they blocked them all anyway
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:26 pm to
I would raise it to 70. I'd also make it apply to any Supreme Court nominee.

If the Dims can unilaterally reduce it by 10 from the original 60, then why can't the Republicans raise it 10 from the original 60.

I just can't wait to see all the Dims cry like a bunch of puss!es when Odumbf*ck can't get any judicial nominees through the Senate in his last two years.
This post was edited on 11/2/14 at 11:28 pm
Posted by BACONisMEATcandy
Member since Dec 2007
46643 posts
Posted on 11/2/14 at 11:27 pm to
That same logic is used when politicians implement self-imposed term limits. Only their constituents are hurt by doing so.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123782 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:16 am to
quote:

Exactly. If Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg retires,for example, the nuclear option is gonna bite somebody if the republicans win...or lose.
Unless you're saying the GOP would expand the N.O. to SCOTUS appointees, that is the one area Reid & Co had said they'd leave as is.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40091 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:31 am to
Who brings up the issue first? The dems who passed it but now don't want or the repubs who didn't want it but now benefit from it?
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98491 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 6:31 am to
And if you think that would have stuck after the GOP stalled Holders nomination to the Court for the 2nd time, you are fooling yourself.
Posted by son of arlo
State of Innocence
Member since Sep 2013
4577 posts
Posted on 11/3/14 at 7:26 am to
quote:

If the republicans win control of the Senate, will they want to rescind the nuclear option the democrats approved earlier?


If they had any sense of why the Senate was created, and what makes the Senate different than the House, they will rescind. IOW no, they'll keep the rachet right where it is.
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