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re: Deepwater Horizon left a 1200 square mile "bathtub ring" on the GoM floor

Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:38 pm to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:38 pm to
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Would you care sharing the amount of oil that has made its way into the GOM over the last million years then?




Made its way into and stayed or just made its way into? If its the former I think we need some more information, like decay rates of oil and the net rate at which it flows out of the gulf into the atlantic (which could be negative). If its the latter, stop being a moron and learn to do math yourself.

This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Coppertone
LA
Member since Aug 2013
345 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:38 pm to
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I really don't like to call people stupid but.

BP Oil Spill = 4.2 million barrels over 1,200 SM's

Natural seepage = 1.2 million barrels over 617,800 SM's

You must work for BP?


natural seepage is per year. Do the math on natural seepage x thousands of years
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:39 pm to
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natural seepage is per year. Do the math on natural seepage x thousands of years


So we're good if the next oil rig disaster leaks 1000 X's Deepwater Horizon, right?



Stop being a pedestrian moron and leave the thinking to others.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 12:40 pm
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:41 pm to
I can do the math. I also understand that oil in the GOM is and has been a natural part of the ecosystem well before man appeared on this earth.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:41 pm to
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I was talking about the breathless media "experts" claiming the well was spilling 50,000 BOPD
Where would they have gotten a crazy notion like that?

LINK
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:41 pm to
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Natural seepage = 1.2 million barrels over 617,800 SM's


Natural seepage also has concentrations, BTW. Its not a set rate everywhere. Just trying to aide the very broad accusation of this thread...
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22369 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:44 pm to
Quick question since you know so much, what has happened to the GOM since the spill? Are the fish populations dwindling? Is the marine life dying off?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35363 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:44 pm to
The amount of oil from the spill is only equal to 1,000 years of natural sepage in the same area. All at once. No biggie, right? I am sure those microbes can handle it.
Posted by Coppertone
LA
Member since Aug 2013
345 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:46 pm to
Yea, I was just making sure apples were compared to apples.

This issue is a very complex problem that few have a real grasp of...keeping in mind the thousands of variables when comparing things.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 10/31/14 at 12:47 pm to
So what you are telling us is that BP accomplished in a few weeks what it would take the natural earth 1800 years to do?
Posted by Coppertone
LA
Member since Aug 2013
345 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:00 pm to
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So we're good if the next oil rig disaster leaks 1000 X's Deepwater Horizon, right?


huh? I don't think anyone is saying that. I was curious about the numbers, based on duration. Looks like someone else did the math for us.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27816 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:09 pm to
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So what you are telling us is that BP accomplished in a few weeks what it would take the natural earth 1800 years to do


Just not true. Single seepage formations can produce well over a million gallons annually.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Weren't you they guy who recommended that everyone should read Bernays' book Propaganda in the beginning of this thread?
Yeah. What does that have to do with anything? True propaganda propaganda doesn't come from overt sources like PR people or even advertisers. You'd know that if you read the book.

quote:

Yet you read that article from the BP exec and found it semi-legit?
Ummm, yeah. He quoted multiple primary sources. Of course it's slanted, it's a PR Op-Ed. But that doesn't make BP guilty of anything.

If writing a slanted op-Ed piece made one guilty of something, what does it make Paul Krugman?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:44 pm to

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I love the reference to "sweet" crude oil they used as if they were spilling sweat tea into the Gulf of Mexico.
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Wow....

I missed this gem!

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Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:45 pm to
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I apologize
no need! It reads just as well they way you interpreted it! My fault.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:46 pm to
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You could dump the entire world's oil supply into a single square mile in the Gulf, certain types of people will still maintain its A-OK!
Link? Or did you just make that up?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:57 pm to
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Where would they have gotten a crazy notion like that?
Stupid is as stupid does. Nice try at the appeal to authority. But the source doesn't really matter here. It's still a non-sensical claim. You'll only find a handfull of well in the GOM that produced over 20,000BOPD, and that was in a fully a very favorable formation, fully completed, stim'med, and flowed into a dedicated test separator. None of that describes Macondo.
Posted by AUin02
Member since Jan 2012
4280 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 1:58 pm to
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And the article is correct about many of he hyperbolic claims. What is BP supposed to do? Just lay back and take it?


I agree that BP deserves their time in court to dispute and fight the fines etc being levied against them.

However in the initial stages BP was very accommodating and compliant but they seem to have dug their heels in and even gone on the offensive after they sold off a tremendous percentage of their physical assets in the US. I'm not a fan of that timing, coincidental or not.

I also hate that I find myself more likely to side with the Tubas of the board on this one. If Decatur emerges to make a rational argument I agree with I might off myself.
This post was edited on 10/31/14 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57092 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:06 pm to
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I agree that BP deserves their time in court to dispute and fight the fines etc being levied against them.
Wong type of "claims".

I edited my OP to make it more clear....

quote:

And the article is correct about many of he hyperbolic claims of catastrophic environmental destruction. What is BP supposed to do? Just lay back and take it?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
19583 posts
Posted on 10/31/14 at 3:26 pm to
Your stupidity is mind numbing. Please quit, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.
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