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IRS seizes business' bank account for suspected crime

Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:43 pm
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:43 pm
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After years of being a law-abiding business, the government suddenly decides to seize your bank account. Sadly, this is what happened to Carole Hinders' restaurant when the federal government seized her bank account worth $33,000. Now, she's filing a lawsuit in federal court.



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Civil forfeiture, IJ says, is a procedure that allows the federal government to seize property based on the suspicion of a crime. According to the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970, financial institutions are required by law to report any transactions made exceeding $10,000 or any transactions that might be a result of criminal activity.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 9:44 pm
Posted by JG77056
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:45 pm to
Did you take this from the OT circa 3 days ago?
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

Did you take this from the OT circa 3 days ago?


This article is from yesterday so I guess it's not fresh enough for you?
Posted by themunch
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 5:10 am to
OT Police.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:09 am to
1. For a long te I've believed these seizure laws to be ridiculous. The U.S. goverent should not be able to deprive persons of property without due process.

2. If we dont have a choice and have to keep them, they ought to be adjusted for inflation. $10,000 in the early 70s is different than that amount today.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 6:57 am to
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based on the suspicion of a crime


And some people, Jeauxbleaux and the like, think more government is the answer to all our problems.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:55 am to
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According to the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970, financial institutions are required by law to report any transactions made exceeding $10,000 or any transactions that might be a result of criminal activity.


Guilty until proven innocent.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:00 am to
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. According to the Bank Secrecy Act of 1970,
OBAMA!
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:06 am to
No, not Obama, but it was passed by both houses of Congress that were at the time controlled by Democrats.

Richard Nixon did sign it, but Dems were responsible for it.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:07 am to
I need someone smarter than I to explain to me how civil forfeiture is constitutional when the 5th Amendment unambiguously says that the federal government cannot deprive a citizen of property without due process and the 14th amendment says the states cannot deprive a citizen of property without due process.

Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:10 am to
Cash only restaurant. Deposits just under 10k and the owner even admits she was intentionally keeping the deposits under 10k to prevent reporting.


Suckas!
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:15 am to
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Deposits just under 10k and the owner even admits she was intentionally keeping the deposits under 10k to prevent reporting.


So, you're saying that this is illegal?
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:17 am to
quote:

Cash only restaurant. Deposits just under 10k and the owner even admits she was intentionally keeping the deposits under 10k to prevent reporting.
quote:

IRS seizes business' bank account
See any problem here, Spidey?
Posted by Five0
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:24 am to
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Posted by member12
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:31 am to
This is another thing the federal government should not be allowed to do without due process.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 8:33 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:47 am to
Yep.

There's only two reasons people run cash-only restaurants these days - 1) to avoid paying taxes on legal income 2) as a front operation to launder illegal income.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 8:56 am
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:53 am to
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Richard Nixon did sign it, but Dems were responsible for it
the dems made Nixon sign it? Who made the republican controlled house senate and white house do nothing to repeal it earlier last decade? Obama?
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:58 am to
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No, not Obama, but it was passed by both houses of Congress that were at the time controlled by Democrats. Richard Nixon did sign it, but Dems were responsible for it.


The mandatory reporting for $10k+ cash deposits is from the Patriot Act.

Bush's fault.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:00 am to
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The mandatory reporting for $10k+ cash deposits is from the Patriot Act.


Are you sure?

I seem to remember Ollie North testifying about deposits that were denominated in 9's.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:03 am to
there are different laws that all come back to that 10k limit. i think initially it was part of legislation targeting organized crime (laundering)

this isn't a DEM or a REP issue. this is a government issue. anyone who supports these laws hates freedom and believes in a police state.
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