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Help me understand SEC tie-breaker C.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:13 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:13 am
I'm having trouble figuring this one out:
Say, for instance, the top three west teams are all tied to this tiebreaker. If there is a clear #4 team, then C clearly says the tied top 3 team with the best record against #4 gets the berth - I get that. But what if there is a tie for 4 and 5? Above it says "multiple ties will be broken from first to last" - so does that mean the top three tied team with the best combined record against the teams tied for #4 and #5 gets the berth? Because it would seem to suggest we can't break the tie between 4+5 until we break the tie among the top 3. On the other hand, it says "the team" in the division (top line), not "the team(s)" in the division, which is only possible to do if we break the tie between 4+5. So it appears to contradict itself.
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C. Head-to-head competition against the team within the division with the best overall Conference record (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through the division (multiple ties within the division will be broken from first to last and a tie for first place will be broken before a tie for fourth place)
Say, for instance, the top three west teams are all tied to this tiebreaker. If there is a clear #4 team, then C clearly says the tied top 3 team with the best record against #4 gets the berth - I get that. But what if there is a tie for 4 and 5? Above it says "multiple ties will be broken from first to last" - so does that mean the top three tied team with the best combined record against the teams tied for #4 and #5 gets the berth? Because it would seem to suggest we can't break the tie between 4+5 until we break the tie among the top 3. On the other hand, it says "the team" in the division (top line), not "the team(s)" in the division, which is only possible to do if we break the tie between 4+5. So it appears to contradict itself.
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 10:15 am
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:42 am to SpidermanTUba
I saw the other day a scenario where auburn, ole miss, bama, state, and LSU are all tied at the end of the year. If that happens it goes to whoevers east opponents have the best combined record or something like that. Don't even know if that's what you are talking about bc I can't even understand the way those rules are written out lol.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:45 am to SpidermanTUba
Has the SEC ever gone to tie-breaker C?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:45 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:
Say, for instance, the top three west teams are all tied to this tiebreaker. If there is a clear #4 team, then C clearly says the tied top 3 team with the best record against #4 gets the berth - I get that. But what if there is a tie for 4 and 5? Above it says "multiple ties will be broken from first to last" - so does that mean the top three tied team with the best combined record against the teams tied for #4 and #5 gets the berth? Because it would seem to suggest we can't break the tie between 4+5 until we break the tie among the top 3. On the other hand, it says "the team" in the division (top line), not "the team(s)" in the division, which is only possible to do if we break the tie between 4+5. So it appears to contradict itself.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:45 am to SpidermanTUba
you seem like an SEC rant type-a-guy, id click over there and just stay.
enjoy your ilk
enjoy your ilk
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:47 am to Black n Gold
quote:There were different rules back then but in 2003 UGA, UF, and UT had to be decided by BCS ranking.
Has the SEC ever gone to tie-breaker C?
This post was edited on 10/28/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:48 am to tween the hedges
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There were different rules back then but in 2003 UGA, UF, and UT had to be decided by BCS ranking.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't the BCS ranking tie-breaker C back then?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:49 am to Vinny V
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I saw the other day a scenario where auburn, ole miss, bama, state, and LSU are all tied at the end of the year. If that happens it goes to whoevers east opponents have the best combined record
This is the answer.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:49 am to Black n Gold
I don't know about "c" but it was the last resort.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:51 am to SpidermanTUba
If two teams are tied below the top group, I believe the top teams' record against the group of tied teams below them is compared. Here's an example as I understand it. Say the top 5 of the SEC West finishes this way:
LSU 6-2
Mississippi State 6-2
Alabama 6-2
Auburn 5-3
Ole Miss 5-3
The top 3 are all 1-1 against each other, and 4-2 against the division. So then their combined record against Auburn and Ole Miss would be compared. Each team would be 1-1 against the two, so that tiebreaker would fail, and would eventually end up comparing East opponent records.
LSU 6-2
Mississippi State 6-2
Alabama 6-2
Auburn 5-3
Ole Miss 5-3
The top 3 are all 1-1 against each other, and 4-2 against the division. So then their combined record against Auburn and Ole Miss would be compared. Each team would be 1-1 against the two, so that tiebreaker would fail, and would eventually end up comparing East opponent records.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:52 am to CheerWhine
Lets just admit it, the tie-breaker will go to the team whose mascot has the longest trunk.
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:55 am to tween the hedges
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last resort
The current "last resort" could still result in a tie
Most watched coin flip ever?
Posted on 10/28/14 at 10:57 am to Mac
Last resort
The tie-breaker system goes all the way to "G".
quote:
The current "last resort" could still result in a tie
The tie-breaker system goes all the way to "G".
Posted on 10/29/14 at 4:19 pm to Mac
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Most watched coin flip ever?
Les will win if it comes to that.
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