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re: Quotes Added: Gov related entity hacked reporter's Sharyl Atkinson laptop
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:34 am to mmcgrath
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:34 am to mmcgrath
quote:
A couple of questions:
1) It's commercial software?
2) It's "nonattibutable" but also "proprietary"?
SShh! You're fricking with the narrative.
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:40 am to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
SShh! You're fricking with the narrative.
I know, right? I'm not even trying to be cute. I just figured the "commercial, noattributable, proprietary government" software would strike anyone else as odd. The fact that this unnamed government agency used e-mail spam to get it on her computer would appear to be odd as well.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:42 am to mmcgrath
that didn't take long
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:42 am to mmcgrath
quote:
The fact that this unnamed government agency used e-mail spam to get it on her computer would appear to be odd as well.
not really.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:47 am to bamarep
quote:Well, I can't take too much credit since it is an obvious question. Can you explain them? Do you think they were typos?
that didn't take long
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 11:48 am
Posted on 10/27/14 at 11:51 am to mmcgrath
sure can't. but ms. Atkinson isn't the one with the reputation as a lying, law breaking strongarm.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:02 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
2) It's "nonattributable" but also "proprietary"?
Here's the full quote:
quote:The source Atkinson is quoting seems to be using the word "proprietary" in the sense of it's part of the MO of a particular govt agency.
“a sophisticated entity that used commercial, nonattributable spyware that’s proprietary to a government agency: either the CIA, FBI, the Defense Intelligence Agency or the National Security Agency.”
Laying aside technology nomenclature for a moment, what do you think about the allegations Atkinson makes?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:07 pm to L.A.
Personally, I don't think people would have been jacking with her personal laptop if there wasn't something to where she was headed with some of her work.
I'm sure it was just a rogue agent though.
I'm sure it was just a rogue agent though.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:09 pm to L.A.
quote:
Laying aside technology nomenclature for a moment, what do you think about the allegations Atkinson makes?
Irrelevant based on potentially flawed adjective. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it, that does not make sense.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:12 pm to ItNeverRains
quote:That seems to be where he's going with his post. That's why I'm asking him to clarify his position.
Irrelevant based on potentially flawed adjective.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:16 pm to L.A.
BOOM and that source “Number One” works for one of those 3 letter agencies,( at least that's what the article indicated ) so he/she would know what spyware those guys all use, hence proprietary is the proper word.
I added the quotes from the article but yall beat me to it, oh well, they are there along with my usual Obama is POS.
I added the quotes from the article but yall beat me to it, oh well, they are there along with my usual Obama is POS.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:24 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
dr;dnr
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:25 pm to L.A.
quote:There is no specific allegation in any of the direct quotes where she specifically accuses the government. Even the statements attributed directly to "Number 1" don't have any specific accusations, only innuendo.
Laying aside technology nomenclature for a moment, what do you think about the allegations Atkinson makes?
In my experience working directly with people in the news including anchors and reporters, their laptops are filled with viruses and spyware because they tend to read all of their e-mails with less caution than an average person would.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 12:29 pm to ItNeverRains
quote:Nonattributable - means that you cannot connect one thing to anything else.
Irrelevant based on potentially flawed adjective
Proprietary - Clearly identifiable as belonging to or related to another thing
Commercial - Made for a profit, for sale.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:06 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Nonattributable - means that you cannot connect one thing to anything else. Proprietary - Clearly identifiable as belonging to or related to another thing Commercial - Made for a profit, for sale.
Spinning - what 99% of liberals do daily to support Obama policies, especially after the claims they made against his predecessor.
Or maybe Atkinson was buying heroin on deep web?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:12 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
In my experience working directly with people in the news including anchors and reporters, their laptops are filled with viruses and spyware because they tend to read all of their e-mails with less caution than an average person would.
Interesting. What experience do you have with people in the news and their laptops?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:16 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
Nonattributable - means that you cannot connect one thing to anything else.
Proprietary - Clearly identifiable as belonging to or related to another thing
Commercial - Made for a profit, for sale.
If I make a piece of software and sell it (commercial) and that software and it's code, rights, etc is bought by some three letter agency (proprietary), and I wrote my code so as it is not referenced, a one of custom with no identification (nonattributable), then it certainly fits.
But you dont write code, so I dont expect you to understand that simple explanation. We go further if you like, but you're already out of your depth.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:16 pm to ItNeverRains
quote:Giving definitions is spinning?
Spinning
Pot meet kettlePosted on 10/27/14 at 1:22 pm to CptBengal
quote:I write a lot of code. I am very successful at it.
If I make a piece of software and sell it (commercial) and that software and it's code, rights, etc is bought by some three letter agency (proprietary), and I wrote my code so as it is not referenced, a one of custom with no identification (nonattributable), then it certainly fits.
But you dont write code, so I dont expect you to understand that simple explanation. We go further if you like, but you're already out of your depth.
And you cannot say something is non-attributable and then make a claim that it is. And you are saying that it is commercial based on those same non-identifiable attributes? You are jumping through hoops and failing miserably.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 1:25 pm to mmcgrath
quote:
And you cannot say something is non-attributable and then make a claim that it is.
proprietary and nonattributable are not mutually exclusive.
For example, if you have a piece of custom code, it is non attributable, but if sold (rights, code, etc) then that is also proprietary.
quote:
And you are saying that it is commercial based on those same non-identifiable attributes? You are jumping through hoops and failing miserably.
The fact you couldnt even understood what I wrote, then wrote this, makes this comment:
quote:
I write a lot of code. I am very successful at it.
bullshite.
What do you program in, champ?
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