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Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:30 pm to genro
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Some people say executing them is more expensive than incarcerating them.
The liberals who like to shout this are the same ones who are responsible for them being given high-dollar appellate attorneys on the taxpayers' dime, an absurd amount of scientific testing that everyone knows the results of before its done, and a host of investigators and paralegals to spend their lives annoying people with public records requests about what he was treated like in high school. If they were entitled to a reasonable appeal, it wouldn't cost nearly as much as a lifetime of incarceration.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:31 pm to tLSU
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One doesn't get multiple billed on a misdemeanor, so he obviously has a felony (and likely felonies) in his past.
You are correct. It was his second offense for selling pot. Never charged with a violent crime or any kind of weapons charge, possession, or crime unrelated to selling pot.
Again, if they had just shot the fricker the first time, wouldn't have been a second time for us tax payers to foot the 90 year bill.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:34 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Agreed, but we don't excuse Al Capone because alcohol should've been legal.
which is why it should be legalized.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:35 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Follow the rules
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:35 pm to genro
quote:I agree, but we also don't know exactly what this guy was doing because there isn't a link.
but we don't excuse Al Capone because alcohol should've been legal.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:36 pm to genro
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Agreed, but we don't excuse Al Capone because alcohol should've been legal.
Since you and I have come to an agreement that someone selling pot should be executed, how should we have handled Capone (who also owned weapons and did violent things)?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:36 pm to genro
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Agreed, but we don't excuse Al Capone because alcohol should've been legal.
It is always about the money and the real issue is tax evasion.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:37 pm to Srbtiger06
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Might should reconsider your wording here.
Why? I'm good at what I do. I would've taken it head on.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:39 pm to SabiDojo
He's just jealous because he's never had the pleasure of defending someone that fine.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:41 pm to glassman
That's just all they could get him on. He killed all the witnesses.
TnM, both should receive the Iron Maiden
TnM, both should receive the Iron Maiden
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:41 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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I agree, but we also don't know exactly what this guy was doing because there isn't a link.
Ok, fine. Details...
This guys was arrested in 1989. He grew pot and sold it. He was convicted of trafficking MJ, conspiracy to traffic, and racketeering. 30 year sentence for each. Never charged or accused of any type of violent crime.
A product of the get tough on drug laws under Reagan's initial war on drugs and right after sentencing laws were drastically increased.
Essentially serving a life sentence.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:42 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Richard DeLisi has been in prison for 26 years and counting. He's one of more than a dozen nonviolent criminals around the country currently serving either life sentences or de facto life sentences for smuggling pot -- and one of the seven who were tried and convicted in Florida.
Reformers say the long sentences handed out to relatively harmless pot dealers during the War on Drugs should be revisited. In the 1980s, when crack cocaine ravaged the nation, lawmakers introduced mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenses, and tough prosecutors tacked on conspiracy charges that could add decades of prison time. Now, however, 23 states plus Washington, D.C., have legalized medical marijuana, and polls indicate that 80 percent of Floridians will follow suit by voting for a constitutional amendment in the November 4 election. Why are taxpayers still footing the multimillion-dollar bill to incarcerate guys peddling a substance we've come to think of as medicine?
In December 1989, Richard DeLisi was sentenced to 90 years behind bars: 30 for trafficking marijuana, 30 for conspiracy to traffic it, and 30 more for racketeering. If he'd been convicted after 1995, when Florida enacted a Truth in Sentencing Law, he'd have to serve at least 85 percent of his sentence, which would have been 76 and a half years.
As it stands, DeLisi has earned years off of his sentence for things like good behavior and getting his GED. His release date is set for 2026, meaning the 65-year-old will be 77 when he gets out, if he lives that long. Though he is not an entirely sympathetic character, he is now in his twilight years and in poor health. Since he's been incarcerated, his family has fallen to ruins amid poverty and drug addiction. A hearing set for November 7 will determine whether he has one of his felony conspiracy charges reduced to a second-degree misdemeanor. If not, DeLisi will become the nation's longest-serving inmate for a nonviolent, marijuana-related crime.
"I've watched murderers, rapists, and child molesters all get out of jail before me," he said last month via phone from the South Bay Correctional Facility. "When I was smuggling, I always knew the consequences. But never in my wildest dreams did I imagine it would end up like this."
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:44 pm to SabiDojo
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I could've gotten him off.
I heard you do S a mean D like Paige on a first date.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:49 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Check out the link to the stupid fricking liberal pussies that want the bastard set free so he can run amuck again in society and cause problems.
LINK
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NINETY YEARS FOR POT
Richard has now been locked up for almost a quarter of a century.
It is reprehensible that in this day in America a man can and is being killed by the State of Florida for a non violent marijuanna charge.
Richard DeLisi is not just any man either he is a good man who helped and loved all around him.
Richard DeLisi was proud to be an American.
... Please do not let Richard die in prison in America, the land of the free.
Where are the brave people who will help undo this injustice?
This is an inhumane sentence, considering that the STATE handed the Court, after trial, a recommended term of 15 Years, to be served in a State Prison. This was determined at what is called a Pre-sentencing investigation, conducted for the purpose of establishing what the State feels to be a just punishment for a crime.
During his incarceration, for a non-violent, marijuana offense,Richard has been witness to heroin traffickers,cocaine traffickers,murderers & predators all serve their time and be released. At 62 years of age and in poor health, having an impeccable prison record, Richard is still in prison, costing the taxpayers money, wasting his life, for a victimless crime.
LINK
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:49 pm to stout
I'm not afraid to put my nose in there. It's my job. I don't care how dirty it gets. I'll take as big a load as the job requires.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:52 pm to SabiDojo
quote:Come on man
I'm not afraid to put my nose in there. It's my job. I don't care how dirty it gets. I'll take as big a load as the job requires.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:53 pm to SabiDojo
I have an infinitely bigger problem with convicted murderers not getting life and/or fifty years minimum.
How anyone can take a human life and do less than 25 years minimum with no parole or early release..is just asinine!
How anyone can take a human life and do less than 25 years minimum with no parole or early release..is just asinine!
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:54 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Ok, fine. Details...
This guys was arrested in 1989. He grew pot and sold it. He was convicted of trafficking MJ, conspiracy to traffic, and racketeering. 30 year sentence for each. Never charged or accused of any type of violent crime.
Richard DeLisi
LINK
Another link
Posted on 10/24/14 at 6:58 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
quote:Obscene.
What is the OT's opinion of that?
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