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re: Stolen from OT: No chemical weapons in Iraq, except for the ones ISIS just used
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:49 am to Choctaw
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:49 am to Choctaw
The bat signal must have gone up. It's the Bush/Cheney/miles apologist.
I'm still waiting for a link from Bush or Cheney confirming theses "facts". Seems that if true they'd be trumpeting this to defend their legacy. But instead... Crickets. In fact, the last time I remembered Bush even mentioning WMD was when he did that comedy video for the WH correspondents dinner where he looked all over the White House, under chars and tables for the WMD.
I'm still waiting for a link from Bush or Cheney confirming theses "facts". Seems that if true they'd be trumpeting this to defend their legacy. But instead... Crickets. In fact, the last time I remembered Bush even mentioning WMD was when he did that comedy video for the WH correspondents dinner where he looked all over the White House, under chars and tables for the WMD.
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Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:52 am to Vegas Bengal
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I'm still waiting for a link from Bush or Cheney confirming theses "facts".
why do you need confirmation from Bush or Cheney?
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Seems that if true they'd be trumpeting this to defend their legacy.
unlike Clinton and Obama....Bush doesn't have a giant ego
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I remembered Bush even mentioning WMD was when he did that comedy video for the WH correspondents dinner where he looked all over the White House, under chars and tables for the WMD.
because they didn't find them. this isn't that hard to understand
Posted on 10/24/14 at 8:56 am to Vegas Bengal
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The bat signal must have gone up. Its the Obama apoligist
Anytime you are needed for spin Vegas.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:02 am to WeeWee
I was under the impression that everyone already knew Saddam had Chem weapons. Hell his gas campaign against the Kurds drew worldwide condemnation. It seems pretty weak to try to justify the war all these years later by pointing out something already known, as if Bush sold the war on Chem weapons alone. I seem to remember the warmongers using a different word to drum up fear at home - nuclear. Or dubious links to Al Qaeda.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:04 am to Vegas Bengal
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So on the eve of invasion, when the entire world knew what was about to happen, Saddam sent his weapons of mass destruction to another country? You think he thought once we invaded and found none we'd just tell him "never mind" and let him go about his business?
The UN inspectors were trying to inspect his facilities for 2 years. Him booting them out the last time is what triggered the war.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:04 am to a want
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Remember Colin Powells lecture on mobile trucks, etc.?
Did those mobile trucks become immobile when we went looking for them?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:05 am to BugAC
quote:Well don't just sit there behind your computer. Go ahead and school me on the differences. I can't wait.
Wow, are you really that fricking stupid that you don't know the difference between chlorine for a pool, and chlorine used as a weapon?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:06 am to bamarep
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Am I the only one that thinks a great deal of Saddam's chemical weapons were moved to Syria after he knew we were coming after him?
It's highly plausible that these were later re-captured by the ISIS thugs in Syria to play around with later.
You're not alone and you are correct.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:08 am to monsterballads
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The UN inspectors were trying to inspect his facilities for 2 years. Him booting them out the last time is what triggered the war.
Exactly, a violation of the ceasefire and thus a justification for war. Did Bush/Cheney oversell it maybe but that is what politicians do.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:08 am to Choctaw
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why do you need confirmation from Bush or Cheney?
I don't need anything from those two. But history does because the history of the Iraq War includes the fact that they sold the country and our allies on the premise Saddam had WMD, no WMD was found, hearings were held here and Britain regarding the failures of our intelligence and the ginning up the little we had right. His legacy will forever be that we invaded another country on a mistake at best and a lie at worst.
One would think one or both would try to clear their names.
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 9:09 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:11 am to Choctaw
quote:Yeah. The reason Bush and Cheney aren't talking is because they are soooo humble.
unlike Clinton and Obama....Bush doesn't have a giant ego
This post was edited on 10/24/14 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:12 am to Old Hellen Yeller
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I seem to remember the warmongers using a different word to drum up fear at home - nuclear.
Yeah. Just because a brutal dictator has all the ingredients for a nuclear device doesn't mean he's going to go to all the trouble to put them together as soon as he gets rid of the UN inspectors.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:15 am to son of arlo
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Yeah. Just because a brutal dictator has all the ingredients for a nuclear device doesn't mean he's going to go to all the trouble to put them together as soon as he gets rid of the UN inspectors.
So why not invade Iran, North Korea, Syria just to make sure for them as well?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:15 am to Vegas Bengal
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But history does because the history of the Iraq War includes the fact that they sold the country and our allies on the premise Saddam had WMD,
Yes! He did!
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no WMD was found,
WTF? Have you been reading this thread?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:17 am to son of arlo
quote:But he didn't. You understand that, right?
Yeah. Just because a brutal dictator has all the ingredients for a nuclear device doesn't mean he's going to go to all the trouble to put them together as soon as he gets rid of the UN inspectors.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:17 am to Vegas Bengal
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So why not invade Iran,
We were ginning up for that when the 2008 NIE came out and said Iran had "abandoned" their nuclear weapons program. Bush jumped on it as an excuse to take Iran off the table.
You forget about the whole inspection angle don't you?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:22 am to Vegas Bengal
Agree with much you said but this...
I know you have read all the quotes from Clinton, Gore, Kerry and many other Dems when they were in power and getting intel briefings then coming to the mics and saying the exact things Bush said.
I never thought Bush lied. Ever. Now the intell community is another matter.
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and a lie at worst.
I know you have read all the quotes from Clinton, Gore, Kerry and many other Dems when they were in power and getting intel briefings then coming to the mics and saying the exact things Bush said.
I never thought Bush lied. Ever. Now the intell community is another matter.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:24 am to son of arlo
The Iraq Study Group Report.
There Bush and Cheney tried to spin the findings by saying AHA! Saddam didn't have WMD but he had the capability to start a new program! Remember that one?
Then of course there was this study:
There Bush and Cheney tried to spin the findings by saying AHA! Saddam didn't have WMD but he had the capability to start a new program! Remember that one?
Then of course there was this study:
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush and his top aides publicly made 935 false statements about the security risk posed by Iraq in the two years following September 11, 2001, according to a study released Tuesday by two nonprofit journalism groups.
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:24 am to mmcgrath
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But he didn't. You understand that, right?
What was he lacking?
Posted on 10/24/14 at 9:27 am to Vegas Bengal
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two nonprofit journalism groups.
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