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re: In other news...the IRS given free reign to target people by federal judge

Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:33 pm to
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Seems like the GOP is the only party that appoints federal judges that end up fricking them (frick you John Roberts). You never hear about a DEM appointee that ends up being a surprise conservative.


7th circuit's Richard Posner and Justice John Paul Stevens are two other good examples.
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:33 pm to
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quote:This is like putting the money back in the cash register after someone got caught robbing the convenience store and the judge letting them go. We just did that to what 33,000 criminal Aliens...
Don't worry in a month or so Odrama will fire up his pen and 33K will look like a drop in a bucket.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35398 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 8:42 pm to
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Don't recall that they were trying to run Ads. If I remember correctly True the Vote was an educational group, that sought to educate people to be Poll Watchers, and that sort of thing. Ballot integrity. Which explains why the IRS harassed them.
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True the Vote may have been OK, I don't know them. But there were 40 other groups in the class action lawsuit including "Liberty Township Tea Party" who still doesn't have tax exempt status, and probably rightfully so.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98798 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:00 pm to
Funny...Because they were all given tax exempt status. That's why the lawsuit was dismissed.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
12890 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 9:49 pm to
Maybe some lawyers can weigh in on this, but since this was a civil suit, wasn't the judge's only potential remedy to "make them whole"? If they have already been made whole, what outcome was the other alternative?
Posted by Bard
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Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:08 pm to
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The judge, appointed by Republican President George W. Bush, also said the groups couldn’t receive monetary relief from individual IRS officials, such as ex-IRS official Lois Lerner, because of the chilling effect it would have on tax administration.


Translation: The IRS is far too important to ever be held accountable for its own actions. All citizens are equal, government agencies are just MORE equal...
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123914 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:19 pm to
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It's probably difficult to claim to be a non-political non-profit then sue because you weren't able to run adds in the 2012 election.
No more so than claims of any leftist groups who were allowed to run such ads.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35398 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:25 pm to
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Funny...Because they were all given tax exempt status. That's why the lawsuit was dismissed.
From the article:
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Walton did, however, demand the IRS within 14 days answer for two applications that have not yet been approved nor denied: applications for Patriots Educating Concerned Americans Now and Liberty Township Tea Party. But that footnote was the only part of the ruling that favored the conservative groups.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35398 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:28 pm to
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No more so than claims of any leftist groups who were allowed to run such ads.
Obviously they didn't file any claims so that point is moot as well. Court rooms aren't fair places. I thank god they have no jurisdiction over the laws of physics.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:28 pm to
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Patriots Educating Concerned Americans Now and Liberty Township Tea Party


So apparently, the case wasn't 'moot' for these groups.
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