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re: Proposal for International NFL Expansion (now with actual content!)

Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:38 am to
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:38 am to
The 1 wildcard vs lowest division is an excellent idea. Something to punish all those bullshite 9-7/8-8 division winners. ETA: But with all those teams how is STL in the West?
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:40 am
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:43 am to
Jesus. Of course this probably sounds great to Roger.

Geographic locations and what a diluted mess the league would be aside, to have the NFC teams go far more frequently to Europe is an obvious joke.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 11:44 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:44 am to
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ETA: But with all those teams how is STL in the West?


When I first mocked it up, I accidentilly had both Oakland and St. Louis as the team moving to Los Angeles. I kept having issues with where to place certain teams. Adding the Canadian teams displaced an AFC East team (Miami), but Jacksonville shipping off overseas left a vacancy. Building the new western divisions with all of the new teams (Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Vancouver, San Antonio, Mexico City) proved to be difficult as well. Some teams (especially AFC ones) proved difficult to place. I'm open to suggestions if you have another configuration.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 11:58 am to
AFC
North: Cleveland, Pittsburg, Cincinatti, Indianapolis
South: Tampa Bay, Tennessee, Miami, Carolina
East: Toronto, New England, New York Jets, Canada team #3
West: San Diego, Los Angeles, San Antonio, Mexico City
Central: Dallas, Kansas City, Denver, Las Vegas

NFC
North: Green Bay, Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago
South: New Orleans, Atlanta, St. Louis, Houston
East: Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York Giants
West: Arizona, Seattle, San Francisco, Vancouver
Euro: London + 3 teams

How's that?

This would retain most traditional rivalries (though not for the Cowboys).

The Saints would get the culcha war with Houston, get their rivalry back with the Rams, and keep theirs with the Dirty Birds.

I think Baltimore is a natural fit in the NFC East.

Indy in the AFC North makes way more sense than in the south.

Plus, you get Las Angeles vs San Diego vs San Antonio vs Mexico? That's pretty awesome.

Seattle vs Vancouver? Pretty sweet.
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 12:03 pm
Posted by JoeMoTiger
KC Area
Member since Nov 2013
2677 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:11 pm to
quote:

Going to be some real shittastic teams


Not necessarily, if the NFL expands into Central America, Canada and Europe and the new markets take off..........well a lot of kids that are playing soccer/futbol will see the allure of breaking heads and want in on the action, all the types that you see rioting after a soccer game now will be NFL players and fans in the future. thug factor will increase 2 fold.
Posted by Mephistopheles
Member since Aug 2007
8328 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:15 pm to
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When I first mocked it up, I accidentilly had both Oakland and St. Louis as the team moving to Los Angeles.


Sounds good to me.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28361 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:56 pm to
The NFL seems poised to do everything they can to over-saturate itself. More teams; More games; More playoff participants; Expansion to regions that really couldn't care less about American football. It's as if they are doing their best to fix something that isn't broken.

What's the need? Baseball and Basketball have been much more popular overseas for much longer than football, yet we hear nothing about international teams (other than the few in Canada). Soccer has and will always be more popular world wide than american football. The NFL isn't cutting into that market. The NFL is a goldmine. The only thing that can/will bring it down is litigation/legislation.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54094 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 12:58 pm to
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South (New Orleans, Tampa Bay, Atlanta, Carolina)


Still intact.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:02 pm to
Should be Houston, San Antonio, Dallas and Mexico City in a division. Would be awesome for rivalries.
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3322 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:20 pm to
Don't think the NFL will ever encroach on Canada. Last time they tried the Canadian government threw a shite fit and attempted to ban them.

CFL or bust in Canada
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Don't think the NFL will ever encroach on Canada. Last time they tried the Canadian government threw a shite fit and attempted to ban them


Buffalo is already mulling a move to Toronto and playing a game a year there.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George
Member since Aug 2004
77977 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:25 pm to
quote:

quote:
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That is exactly how it should read.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25562 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:35 pm to
There aren't enough quality qb's in the NFL right now much less having to add 8 more teams.

I think they should cut 2-4 teams out and raise the salary cap.
I don't want to watch Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, Blake Bortles, Derrick Carr, Sam Bradford, Teddy Bridgewater, Colt McCoy, Mettenberger(well i do, but no one else does)
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Buffalo is already mulling a move to Toronto and playing a game a year there.



This isn't true anymore. New owner is committed to staying in buffalo
This post was edited on 10/23/14 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Bags of Milk
The Sunny Beaches of Canada
Member since Feb 2013
3322 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:05 pm to
They play games there yes but it hasn't really gotten any attention nor are the ticket sales great.

There is no serious ownership group that wants them to go to Toronto. They all want to keep them in Buffalo
Posted by theone
LSU
Member since Nov 2005
1816 posts
Posted on 10/23/14 at 2:07 pm to
Conferences annoy me so screw them. Top 3 teams from each division go the playoffs, the top team gets a bye. Only play the teams in your division once a year.

North:
1. Cleveland,
2. Pittsburgh,
3. Cincinnati,
4. Indianapolis,
5. Green Bay,
6. Minnesota,
7. Detroit,
8. Chicago
9. Toronto (Bills),
10. New England,

South:
1. Tampa Bay,
2. Tennessee,
3. Miami,
4. Carolina
5. New Orleans,
6. Atlanta,
7. Mexico City
8. Houston,
9. Dallas,
10. San Antonio

East:
1. New York Jets,
2. Canada team #3 (Ottawa),
3. Washington,
4. Baltimore,
5. Philadelphia,
6. New York Giants,
7. London (Jags)
8. Manchester
9. Frankfurt
10. Munich

West:
1. San Diego,
2. Los Angeles (Raiders),
3. Kansas City,
4. Denver,
5. St. Louis
6. Los Angeles (Team #2),
7. Arizona,
8. Seattle,
9. San Francisco,
10. Vancouver
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