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re: Obama has been an impressive president

Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:10 pm to
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1) Using IRS as a weapon against political opponents?


Oh how I love this one. The right had raised superpac money 2-1 over the left. You think stalling tax exempt status to a few pacs was a weapon when there are hundreds of pacs raising $400 million for the right in one year?

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2) NSA wiretapping of citizens?
Which they were doing before he got in office. Only then (before he got in office) there was no law allowing for it.

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3) More than doubling the national debt to $17.8 trillion and rising


Which had as much to do with falling revenues from the crash and the rise in spending was to recover from the crash, which we did. (by the way the debt tripled under Reagan and doubled under Bush)

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4) Arming terrorists around the globe and now having to fight those same terrorists?

You're silly

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5) Implementing a healthcare system that simultaneously increases cost, lowers quality of care, and imposes crippling restrictions on small businesses?


Right, they weren't rising before?


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6) Somehow, turning an easily manageable viral outbreak into a political frick-up and managing to allow the first outbreak of Ebola in the United States.

1 death, 2 contracted in the US. We had 7500 deaths from AIDS under Reagan before he even mentioned the disease in public in 2007. Now that's managing.
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7) Attacking East Cost coal power?
What did he use? A drone? And is it so bad to move to other sources like natural gas which is cleaner and helps Louisiana?
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8) Continuing dependence on foreign oil from terrorist states, rather than brokering a deal with a friendly neighboring country that would provide thousands of jobs and decrease energy costs in the US?
Republicans filibustered Keystone
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9) Closing down federal land drilling permits?
We're drilling now more
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10) Implementing a federal gun running sting and failing to follow up on it, resulting in hundreds of deaths/attacks involved with those same weapons?
So those drug gangs in Mexico wouldn't have guns to kill people had we not enforced gun laws in the US which you oppose?
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11) Managing to create a warring class system between Rich/Poor, White/Black?
Through his 47% speech? Through the right's constant rants against democrats being lazy and living off the the govt's teet? Obama did that?
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12) Managing to lead the black community to the largest unemployment rate in the last 2-3 decades?
Yes, he's the band director.
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13) Being the welfare and food stamp king?
Definitely should have let people starve after the country faced it's worse crash in 80 years.
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Pick which one you deem a success, genius.
You haven't named one bad thing.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9619 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:11 pm to
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Republicans filibuster everything.


Have you not heard of the nuclear option?

Harry Reid has not allowed any bills sent by the House(with the exception of a few emergency measures) to be voted upon.

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After the Republicans take over, the Democrats will either filibuster


Again, look up Nuclear Option.

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or Obama will veto.


Good. Make the coward take a stand.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:12 pm to
You are one dumb liberal pos.

IRS targeting by Obama.

His campaign targeted 8 republican donors.

His NSA violated all Americans right to privacy.

He lied about keeping your doctor & insurance.

He has divided America because of his racist politics.

He is a homosexual who lied about not wanting homosexual marriage in order to get elected.

Fast & Furious gun running

Benghazi, lying to the dead families faces.

Unemployment at its worst in over 80 years, continually for 6 years.

The rate of Americans employed is at 62.3 a forty year low.

He has kept intrest rates low by using the feds to that which is going to hurt our economy in the near future.

He has allowed illegal aliens to bombard our borders and your dumbazz likes to see Americans get screwed out of jobs by these bastards.

He rufuses to compromise, which shows horrible leadership skills, and is the reason the healthcare bill is so bad and taking down dems.

He is a racist and a race baitor.

He is a divider of men and women.

He is a compulsive liar.

His administration can't shoot straight be it the V.A., CDC, HHS etc.

He spent a billion dollars on a web site that doesn't work when a guy in the business said he could have done it for a million.

Solyndra cost us another billion dollars, his cronies were part of that deal.

He has spent us 8 trillion further into debt in 6 years. All of the other presidents debt combined was 10 trillion

He removed our troops from Iraq when all the generals told him that was a NO NO. Now we are losing many lives ( Christian and muslim ) to terrorists because of the pussy, ignorant, stupid sob.

He has thrust himself into open cases in Florida, and St. Louis, unbecoming of a president

He has taken illegal foreign money in his campaigns and nothing eas ever done about it.

He has demoralized the military with his B.S. policies

He has called America a nation who terrorized and tortured out captives over seas.

I guess you are a Commie Pinko also since you love thus idiot, in spite of his shyt record.



This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:29 pm
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
2940 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:15 pm to
Obama, 10-20 years from now will only be remembered for one thing. He is the first black president, nothing more.
He has been no better than Bush, and yes, I am a repub, and think O is just as bad.

FORWARD!!! to 2016
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64388 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:20 pm to

Oh how I love this one. [/quote]
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1) Using IRS as a weapon against political opponents?


You really shouldn't it was wrong but you just can't say that. Sad.


[quote]Which they were doing before he got in office



Once again you seem to like that BHO has expanded wire tapping. Double sad. Its wrong but you can't say that.


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Managing to lead the black community to the largest unemployment rate in the last 2-3 decades?
Yes, he's the band director.


Hey we agree on one!


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You haven't named one bad thing.


Damn!
So wire taping IRS targeting and horrible black and black family economic numbers being worse are not horrible?

You really believe this or just a hack? I can't tell. Seems you hate the posters around here more than you hate bad policy.



Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78707 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:21 pm to
There will never be a time when idiots do not extol the triumph of complete and utter failure. It is part of the human condition.

There are still Betamax aficionados. Somewhere in Germany, there is a descendant of a German engineer who defends the Hindenburg. General Pickett's great-great-great grandchildren probably defend his charge with detailed charts and graphs.

Obama too, will have his rigid loyalists, those who will deny mountains of evidence, believing they must defend him from the harsh assessment of history. Orthodox Faith is impervious to fact or reason. Liberal Orthodoxy dies hard. Liberal true-believers will defend it to the bitter end, reflexively rearranging the deck chairs to create a better aesthetic, after all the sensible people have abandoned the Titanic.

Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:22 pm to
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vegas


This chick is in full panic mode with the midterms coming up.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:23 pm to
Dude literally said people would have starved to death in America if not for Obama
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23727 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:24 pm to
He has been very successful at governing the country like a community organizer, whatever that is, would.

He took pages right out of his anti colonialist father's playbook. The US is far too powerful in the world and must be brought down to everyone else's level, and his policies have reflected it.

He has weakened the military. He has hurt the econony and spent us into near oblivion. He has opened the borders,and just generally done what he could to weaken the country and end national sovereignty.

He has no honor and will lie with no shame. He will do whatever it takes to advance his policies and agenda. There are dark days and the day he leaves office should be declared a national holiday.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:30 pm to
Dude creeps me out



What is he 5'1"?

Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79229 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:31 pm to
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This chick is in full panic mode with the midterms coming up.


Dems err'where. Payback is going to suck for them double time if R's take control. Will be hard to shed a tear over that.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118862 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:31 pm to
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There are still Betamax aficionados. Somewhere in Germany, there is a descendant of a German engineer who defends the Hindenburg. General Pickett's great-great-great grandchildren probably defend his charge with detailed charts and graphs.

Obama too, will have his rigid loyalists, those who will deny mountains of evidence, believing they must defend him from the harsh assessment of history. Orthodox Faith is impervious to fact or reason. Liberal Orthodoxy dies hard. Liberal true-believers will defend it to the bitter end, reflexively rearranging the deck chairs to create a better aesthetic, after all the sensible people have abandoned the Titanic.


Posted by real
Dixieland
Member since Oct 2007
14027 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:35 pm to
If he were white he'd have the lowest ever,by far job approval rating. But the pigmentation of his skin gets him some bonus points. IMHO, this unqualified ,American hater has done a lot of damage to the united States in many areas. What we better be hoping for is that our next President be a great leader are America is in a lot of trouble because of the failed experiment that was Obama.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52808 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 1:40 pm to
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The right had raised superpac money 2-1 over the left. You think stalling tax exempt status to a few pacs was a weapon when there are hundreds of pacs raising $400 million for the right in one year?


Yes. Using a government agency to target any person or group is illegal. Thanks for admitting as much.

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Which they were doing before he got in office. Only then (before he got in office) there was no law allowing for it.


Again, thanks for admitting it.

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Which had as much to do with falling revenues from the crash and the rise in spending was to recover from the crash, which we did. (by the way the debt tripled under Reagan and doubled under Bush)


Real unemployment is still above 10%. I know you liberals ignore the labor participation rate, but it is a factual component to real unemployment.

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You're silly




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Right, they weren't rising before?


Yes they were, but not at the rate that Obamacare rates have skyrocketed peoples policies. It's 100% fact. Why do you think a good portion of your liberal buddies are now using the new theme of "it's a path to single payer, that's what Obamacare should have been". Moving the goal posts.

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1 death, 2 contracted in the US. We had 7500 deaths from AIDS under Reagan before he even mentioned the disease in public in 2007. Now that's managing.


Another admission to a frick up. The thing is, AIDS can't be contracted by standing within 3 feet of a person infected. One is highly infectious and is capable of being eliminated (see Nigeria). Yet your master is too concerned with being PC or proving something to the colonialists than doing actual steps to prevent the spread of this disease to US citizens. Hell, Obama wants to usher all of them into the US so we can be the treatment center for Liberians with Ebola.

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What did he use? A drone? And is it so bad to move to other sources like natural gas which is cleaner and helps Louisiana?


Why not use both? Lives and jobs are affected in coal country. Eliminating one due to pressure from green lobby is pure weakness. And don't act like Obama is a friend to the oil and gas industry. Federal land permits are down under Obama. Private land permits are increasing in spite of Obama's policies. Like it or not, lots of money to be made in the energy sector. But that's the real problem, isn't it. Someone else is working hard to make money, and you can't stand them succeeding while you belly ache over "fair share".

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Republicans filibustered Keystone


Actually they didn't. They filibustered Harry Reid's continued fight on the coal and oil and gas industry. Reid, at the last minute, added the "No amendments to this bill" qualification. The bill, previously, included amendments to loosen restriction on coal and speed up natural gas production. At the last minute, Harry Reid added a "no amendments" stipulation to the bill, and thus the bill was squashed. But of course, you knew that.

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So those drug gangs in Mexico wouldn't have guns to kill people had we not enforced gun laws in the US which you oppose?


No, the killers in Mexico wouldn't have the guns they have now, if the federal government didn't give them to them. We armed the cartels, plain and simple. Sure they would still have some guns if fast and furious didn't take place. But no use in handing over guns to known murderers and then failing to track them, then trying to blame it on private US citizen gun ownership.

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hrough his 47% speech? Through the right's constant rants against democrats being lazy and living off the the govt's teet? Obama did that?


You think the 47% speech was anything but 100% accurate. Look at the votes.
The Democrats have created Occupy Wall Street, White Privilege, Evil wall street, "typical white person" statements.

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Yes, he's the band director.




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Definitely should have let people starve after the country faced it's worse crash in 80 years.


That was as of last year. If you claim the recovery has happened, then why are there more people on food stamps now, than ever in the history of this country? You need to get your story straight. Your contradictions argue against you.

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You haven't named one bad thing


Wait, so you try to argue against my points, but in the end, you are stating that all of my points are correct, and aren't bad? Again, check your contradictions.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90711 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:18 pm to
There is so much stupid in that it isn't worth taking the time to argue. Just one point to make though... How can you support his economic views that we needed a bigger stimulus? All that did was take taxpayer money and funnel it to the fat cats on Wall Street, big banks, and corporations "too big to fail". It rewarded greed and incompetence of the exact people liberals claim to hate. How can you agree with that?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:32 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Krugman


That is all it took.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:31 pm to
All I need ask is why aren't Democrats asking Obama to campaign for them if he has been so successful? If his legacy is so spectacular, then shouldn't those who support his legacy be clamoring for his assistance? Krugman willfully ignores the reality of approval ratings and popularity that are direct reflections of how the people perceive Obama's performance as President. Of course Krugman knows better than the people what is good for them, just ask him.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111547 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:48 pm to
LINK

We were told Obamacare would lower costs.

We were told Obamacare would lower the deficit.

We laughed then. Now that our opinion of the folly that is the ACA is being borne out exactly as we predicted, the response is "costs were going up already." No shite. Now we're spending $100B a year we don't have to increase the speed at which those costs increase. And none of that is decreasing the deficit.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111547 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:52 pm to
Krugman on polls in 2006:

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The Great Revulsion, by Paul Krugman: "I have a vision — maybe just a hope — of a great revulsion: a moment in which the American people look at what is happening, realize how their good will and patriotism have been abused, and put a stop to this drive to destroy much of what is best in our country."

I wrote those words three years ago in the introduction to my column collection, "The Great Unraveling." It seemed a remote prospect at the time: Baghdad had just fallen to U.S. troops, and President Bush had a 70 percent approval rating. Now the great revulsion has arrived. The latest Fox News poll puts Mr. Bush's approval at only 33 percent. ...

The proximate causes of Mr. Bush's plunge in the polls are familiar: the heck of a job he did responding to Katrina, the prescription drug debacle and, above all, the quagmire in Iraq. But focusing too much on these ... makes Mr. Bush's political fall ... seem like an accident, or the result of specific missteps. That gets things backward. In fact, Mr. Bush's temporarily sky-high approval ratings were the aberration; the public never supported his real policy agenda.


It's really a wonder that Krugman doesn't do his own Lexis Nexis search before he writes this shite.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:52 pm to
Again, why are Democrats running from him then?
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