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Obama has been an impressive president
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:43 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:43 am
whose legacy will ultimately be very impressive as well.
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Krugman rightfully directs our attention away
from approval ratings and popularity -- measures that don't tell us much about the place of our leaders in American history -- insisting instead that we should be focused on things that a president actually does.
By this measure, Krugman now argues that this administration has done a pretty good job overall. Indeed, as he moves through a list of his major policy accomplishments, Krugman concludes that Obama's legacy is downright impressive compared to his predecessors.
"Despite bitter opposition," Krugman writes, "despite having come close to self-inflicted disaster, Obama has emerged as one of the most consequential and, yes, successful presidents in American history."[/quote]
[quote]He faced scorched-earth Republican opposition from Day One, and it took him years to start dealing with that opposition realistically.
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This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:45 am
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:44 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Krugman;dr
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:44 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
I'm going to love this thread.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:44 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
I wrote an email that says he is the worst of all time.
It must be true because I wrote it, on the internet.
It must be true because I wrote it, on the internet.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:45 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:46 am to GumboPot
Why would anyone ever miss Bush?
Like, ever? If you're going to miss a president, why not miss a good one?
Like, ever? If you're going to miss a president, why not miss a good one?
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:46 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:46 am to FT
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Like, ever? If you're going to miss a president, why not miss a good one?
Because, compared to Obama, even Bush looks good?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:47 am to FT
Not a clue. I just felt the urge to post that picture after reading the OP.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:47 am to FAF
No he doesn't. They look the same.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:47 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
The trolling on this board has been getting much better lately.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:48 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
I'm certainly impressed by how low we can go.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:48 am to FT
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They look the same.
I actually agree.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:50 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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He faced scorched-earth Republican opposition from Day One, and it took him years to start dealing with that opposition realistically.
Ah yes. The president who came into power with both House and Senate majorities and told the republicans they need to sit in the back of the bus; cutting them out from all legislative activities. Right....
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:51 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
I've watched two Krugman interviews in the past week. He reminds me of the person who thinks he can reshape reality and convince you to abandon your beliefs and agree with him through words alone.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:51 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Unimpressive troll
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:51 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Economic recovery could have better without GOP influence as well.
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Did Obama's policies contribute to this less-awful performance? Yes, without question. You'd never know it listening to the talking heads, but there's overwhelming consensus among economists that the Obama stimulus plan helped mitigate the worst of the slump. For example, when a panel of economic experts was asked whether the U.S. unemployment rate was lower at the end of 2010 than it would have been without the stimulus, 82 percent said yes, only two percent said no.
Still, couldn't the U.S. economy have done a lot better? Of course. The original stimulus should have been both bigger and longer. And after Republicans won the House in 2010, U.S. policy took a sharp turn in the wrong direction. Not only did the stimulus fade out, but sequestration led to further steep cuts in federal spending, exactly the wrong thing to do in a still-depressed economy.
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It took almost six years for the United States to regain pre-crisis average income. But that was actually a bit faster than the historical average.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 11:53 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:51 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Obama has emerged as one of the most consequential and, yes, successful presidents in American history
Based upon the actual meaning of these words, this statement is not inaccurate. Because he has been successful in achieving his policy aims (legitimacy of his means be damned), he presidency will certainly be consequential.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:56 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
More economic damage caused by the GOP, again helping to blunt positive economic policy by Obama:
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We can argue about how much Obama could have altered this literally depressing turn of events. He could have pushed for a larger, more extended stimulus, perhaps with provisions for extra aid that would have kicked in if unemployment stayed high. (This isn't 20-20 hindsight, because a number of economists, myself included, pleaded for more aggressive measures from the beginning.) He arguably let Republicans blackmail him over the debt ceiling in 2011, leading to the sequester.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:57 am to udtiger
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Based upon the actual meaning of these words, this statement is not inaccurate. Because he has been successful in achieving his policy aims (legitimacy of his means be damned), he presidency will certainly be consequential.
Exactly what I was thinking.
If you take success to mean that you achieved what you set out to do (although negative), Obama is pretty damn successful as a president.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:58 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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whose legacy will ultimately be very impressive as well.
I sure am glad you are an AU fan.
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