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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:33 am to ironsides
quote:In some instances I would agree. But in this instance I think it was a bad play call so I will not reward this particular play with good coaching just because the result was good. However, I try to be fair with my assessments and not just judge the end result. I still think the decision to go for it against Miss St on 4th and goal was good coaching, even though it ended up with a negative result.
Can we agree that it is a combination of factors? There is an element of luck, an element of good coaching, and an element of surprise involved.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:34 am to AlxTgr
quote:Ok the 48
There wasn't a get it on the 50 scenario.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:35 am to OceanMan
quote:I was arguing the kick did not work because of their particular alignment. The kick worked because of bad play by some Kentucky players
Then why did you argue they weren't?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:36 am to lsupride87
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No it wasn
So, you think Kentucky had the same amount of field to cover with LSU kicking off from the 20 as it does when LSU kicks off from the 35?
As I said, we have some dumb fricks.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:37 am to lsupride87
quote:Which player(s), and where could he/they have recovered it?
The kick worked because of bad play by some Kentucky players
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:38 am to LSU Groupee
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So, you think Kentucky had the same amount of field to cover with LSU kicking off from the 20 as it does when LSU kicks off from the 35?
As I said, we have some dumb fricks
What? they play the same alignment and just move everything up 15 yards you dumb frick. So unless the plan was to kick it over their head I dont see how this holds any water. The spacing between the last two lines changes by 5 yards max if anyThis post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:40 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:39 am to AlxTgr
quote:The three players around the 48 who decided to block instead of pick up the ball
Which player(s), and where could he/they have recovered it?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:41 am to lsupride87
The white guy number 10 or 40 straight up said he aint touching that shite, I here for the block party baby
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:45 am to lsupride87
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I dont give a shite what they are. The only reason they didnt get the ball at the 50 is because multiple players on their team screwed up. Not because we called the perfect play
No one has said at any point that it was a well executed squib kick, that's the point most are missing. However, that's a matter of execution, not planning. By design, the kick is supposed to get past those guys easily and make it to the second level. I admit it barely did, but If you want to talk execution, then you have to bring up the fact we recovered it. You can't have it both ways. The call was correct no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:49 am to lsupride87
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move everything up 15 yards you dumb frick.
Yes, that's exactly the point, clown. They have to have someone able to cover from the LSU 30 to their goal and not the LSU 45 to their goal and thereby opening the field for a more successful squib.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:50 am to LSU Groupee
quote:here is a normal kickoff formation
So, you think Kentucky had the same amount of field to cover with LSU kicking off from the 20 as it does when LSU kicks off from the 35?
As I said, we have some dumb fricks.
here was kentuckys. Show me where the magical extra spacing is unless you boom it over the deep guys head
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Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:53 am to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:I here what you are saying, but look at my picture. Their second level is at the 40-45. I dont think giving a team that kind of field position when you are trying to prevent all scores is a good play.
No one has said at any point that it was a well executed squib kick, that's the point most are missing. However, that's a matter of execution, not planning. By design, the kick is supposed to get past those guys easily and make it to the second level.
This post was edited on 10/21/14 at 10:53 am
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:53 am to lsupride87
quote:I don't think he even saw it. Looks like he just assumed the kick was normal and over his head.
The white guy number 10
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:54 am to AlxTgr
quote:I agree. But I would call that a screw up
I don't think he even saw it. Looks like he just assumed the kick was normal and over his head.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:55 am to TheDrunkenTigah
quote:
No one has said at any point that it was a well executed squib kick, that's the point most are missing. However, that's a matter of execution, not planning. By design, the kick is supposed to get past those guys easily and make it to the second level. I admit it barely did, but If you want to talk execution, then you have to bring up the fact we recovered it. You can't have it both ways. The call was correct no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:57 am to lsupride87
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What? they play the same alignment and just move everything up 15 yards you dumb frick
No, you are clearly the dumb frick. The return men usually are positioned at the goal line, as they are protected by the 10 yard space behind them, as they will not be hurt if the kicker kicks over there head. They have to back up a bit further than the goal line.
Look at UKs alignment, there front line is staggered on the kickoff. Its certainly a different alignment than would typically occur because the back man would have to drop back further to field a kick that would be in play. They don't want to have a huge gap between the upmen and the returner, or the returner is doomed with 11 guys with a full head of steam.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 10:59 am to lsupride87
We were up 27-3 I believe. Talk about the element of surprise and executed perfectly. Also, who's to say we weren't trying to kick it further up the field so the main returner wouldn't get to it but one of the blockers? Kentucky didn't see it coming at all and it worked.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:00 am to OceanMan
quote:Their formation is the exact same. Let me get another picture. If I show you a picture showing the exact same formation will you call yourself the dumb frick? I want to get you on record before I do it
No, you are clearly the dumb frick. The return men usually are positioned at the goal line, as they are protected by the 10 yard space behind them, as they will not be hurt if the kicker kicks over there head. They have to back up a bit further than the goal line. Look at UKs alignment, there front line is staggered on the kickoff. Its certainly a different alignment than would typically occur because the back man would have to drop back further to field a kick that would be in play. They don't want to have a huge gap between the upmen and the returner, or the returner is doomed with 11 guys with a full head of steam.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 11:16 am to lsupride87
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If I show you a picture showing the exact same formation will you call yourself the dumb frick?
No, because it does not change the fact there is more space to cover, how on earth are you arguing this? But knock yourself out and find out the screenshot, I will say that I am wrong about the alignment, because its really irrelevant.
However, your primary argument centers around the assertion that it was a bad play call fr a strategic standpoint. I simply do not agree, so see my other posts. You didn't even know the score at the time of the play, which means that your judgement on the merits of the play call are not affected by the score of the game.
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