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Death of the Bubble Screen

Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Jeffreylebowski
bfegypt
Member since Dec 2012
368 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:06 pm
When did this occur? This is a play that seemed to always work. Moving the ball is about getting the fast guy the ball with space to work with, and this play accomplishes it. I can't remember if it was when Jimbo left or not. I just remember Dwayne Bowe going to work on this play.

One way to help a struggling QB is with easy passes. That and to hand it off a lot which LSU does. However, when Jennings does get a pass play called it always seems to be a slow developer, 5 step drop, low percentage pass. Surely there's someone we could get bubble screens, short pop passes to that can take the ball to the house.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:07 pm to
We used to run the tight 4 wr jailbreak all the time with bowe

I could pre call the play every time they ran it

Yet it always worked
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 3:10 pm
Posted by AcetylCoA
Pasadena, California
Member since Nov 2009
2654 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:09 pm to
The bubble screen was hated on here. It was vilified like the short side option and the pitch power. My my my how times have changed.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
20024 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:09 pm to
quote:

One way to help a struggling QB is with easy passes.


That pass isn't all that easy. Its not far but it has to be gunned in there, and if you turn the receiver at all he is pretty much doomed.

And, I blame Jefferson that it doesn't happen any more BC he was awful at it
Posted by Jeffreylebowski
bfegypt
Member since Dec 2012
368 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

The bubble screen was hated on here. It was vilified like the short side option and the pitch power. My my my how times have changed.


Desperate times call for desperate measures. Anything but toss dive.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
12950 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

The bubble screen was hated on here. It was vilified like the short side option and the pitch power. My my my how times have changed.


This is what I recall.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21123 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:11 pm to
Do it once in a while, not all of the time.

The problem with LSU is that we seem to find one play and call it over and over again. I wouldn't mind the short-side option once in a while - anything to spread the ball out a little bit. Everything now is between the tackles. Get the ball to the sideline once in a while and try to get the edge.

Also, throw it to the TE once in a while, too.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:12 pm to
JJ ruined it. It doesn't help that AJ has similar problems. Requires accuracy to hit right. Guessing we won't be seeing it anytime soon.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98190 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:12 pm to
Kentucky ran it several times, and we always blew it up.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:13 pm to
Harris has the strength for it. When he gets dialed in, hopefully we'll see it out of the gun
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:14 pm to
Simple plays like that would open up the run game. You know what else helps? Screens.. Check downs to rbs.. RB swing routes. RB wheel routes.. Who am I kidding.. Let LF7 run those routes (he's shown against Sam Houston that he's got hands).

Match LF7 with a linebacker and LF7 should win most of the time.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

The bubble screen was hated on here. It was vilified like the short side option and the pitch power. My my my how times have changed.


Yep. The bubble screens were part of Crowton's offense, and don't work if A) you can't get personel on and off the field quickly, B) your QB isn't accurate, C) your opponent's DBs can make an open field tackle. The rant's call to arms back then was that Crowton/Miles were trying to be too cute, when we should be just lining up and running at teams or using play action. If you stay here long enough without getting sick of it you see people calling for the same things they were shite talking three or four years ago.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:21 pm to
The db's always play our slots super loose. It's gotta work at least once a game
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 3:22 pm
Posted by whodidthat
Member since Aug 2011
5896 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Kentucky ran it several times, and we always blew it up.



Bubble screens have gotten our defense a lot of TFL over the years
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Posted by jimbeam
The db's always play our slots super loose. It's gotta work at least once a game




Cam has noticed this. One of the few bad passes Harris made against New Mexico state was a variation of the bubble screen he sailed. Jennings doesn't have enough zip to make it effective, Harris can't hit his man. Our offense and reason for lack of creativity culminated in one play.
Posted by dboyback
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2013
1579 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:26 pm to
frick the bubble screen
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63345 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Yep. The bubble screens were part of Crowton's offense


Goes back further to Jimbo and seemed to represent the apex of conservative offensive thought for the coaches. It was run much like the current plays the staff overly relies on.
Posted by Larry
Collierville, TN
Member since Jul 2004
5454 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

The bubble screen was hated on here. It was vilified like the short side option and the pitch power. My my my how times have changed.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:28 pm to
Skylar green ran the shite out of the BS
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
17320 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 3:31 pm to
Yeah Jimbo ran it too, but not sure if I would describe the bubble screen as conservative. By design you leave at least one DB free to make a tackle, unless they just whiff on on the coverage. The play gambles on your WR being able to make a DB miss.
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