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re: Thoughts on 30/30 repeaters?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:08 pm to Tigerinthewoods
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:08 pm to Tigerinthewoods
It actually does. The early Remlins were shoddy by the ones from the Remington plant in New York are VASTLY improved in every way with the exception of the wood "finished" stocks on the lower end models. I've got an eye on a new 1895 SBL at a local shop and it's flawless in fit and finish, easily on par with the best JM's. I've had JM stamped barrel rifles that you'd have to soak in bore solvent to get out the copper they shredded off the jackets, chattered lands so badly that they were solid copper at the muzzle. My cheap 336W has no such issues. I think those that have forever sworn off newer Marlins are badly mistaken.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:20 pm to Clames
I would be patient if I were you and look for a true Marlin. I bought a 336c pre-safety ('79) that was spotless and had never been shot (said my gunsmith). It shoots consistent 1" groups with a Nikon 2x7. Paid $325 for it and only looked for a week in Texas Gun Trader. Wouldn't trade that for a Remlin. Also bought a stainless Guide Gun in .45-70 in similar condition for $650 in same online classifieds. It literally drills one hole three shot groups at 100 yards.
The deals are there, my friend.
The deals are there, my friend.
This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:24 pm to Tigerinthewoods
See... this is why I started the thread. i didn't know i was gonna start a mini-shite storm, but i'm glad to be made aware of issues like these.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:33 pm to m2pro
No shitstorm here, Pro! This ain't the Rant or the Poli board.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:34 pm to m2pro
I had no idea the new ones were garbage. Mine is 15 years old and hasn't given me a lick of trouble. I have shoot-through sights for close up quick shots, and a cheapy 3-9x40 IIRC on it for further ones.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:43 pm to Hammertime
Remlins would probably include model year '08 to present. But it's also true that Remington has made a concerted effort more recently to improve QC.
Just too many true Marlins out there looking for a good home.
Just too many true Marlins out there looking for a good home.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:46 pm to Hammertime
Because they aren't garbage... Like the damn Glock fanboys who peed their pants when Glocks made in Georgia started showing up in dealer's cases. Some still swear the "Made in Austria" ones are better...
Posted on 10/20/14 at 5:50 pm to Clames
Well, parts suppliers and what plant something is assembled does play a part in the quality of a gun
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:01 pm to Hammertime
What happened with Marlin was significant. A lot of ageing and sensitive (tolerances) machining equipment was packed up and moved from a plant where they had been for nearly 50 years to a plant hundreds of miles away. All the old machinists who were quite familiar with theses machines were let go and new and inexperienced machinists were hired in Ithaca to run machines they were unfamiliar with. Quality control sucked as well and the result was a poor product that ruined an exceptional name in gun manufacturing.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:24 pm to 4X4DEMON
lol at the mossberg.
frankly, i don't have THAT much of a problem with the tactical one, but that is if and only if that hard guard actually does act as a rail system.
but dayum... from the lever back to the end of the butt stock is hideous.
frankly, i don't have THAT much of a problem with the tactical one, but that is if and only if that hard guard actually does act as a rail system.
but dayum... from the lever back to the end of the butt stock is hideous.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:37 pm to Tigerinthewoods
Every firearm maker had a TDP for every product they make, all that is except Marlin which caused a majority of the teething issues. The old Marlin factory wasn't in good shape, lot poorly maintained equipment and while what they shipped was a good product it could have been a lot better. I have experience in moving and setting up older machining equipment and even the best isn't happy and I'm talking multi-ton lathes made in Germany. Remington rushed the move and that caused some bad products too but what is being currently produced is pretty good and will only get better. Unless you've actually handled a 1895 this year you aren't helping the brand get back what is lost. Seems some of the Marlin faithful would rather see the brand go defunct out of spite than see it come back.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:44 pm to Clames
So... to sum it up, you still contend that the most recent Remlin models are good? Or ones made from 2000-2010 (last decade, as you said)?
Would you say that the Henry model is a high end model?
Would you say that the Henry model is a high end model?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:57 pm to Clames
I purchased a older used Marlin several years ago to replace one that was stolen. The gun stayed in the safe for 6 or 7 years before I shot it. That is when I discovered it had a bad, real bad scared chamber. The gunsmith couldn't find a good used barrel so off it went to Remington for a new barrel, chamber, etc. The gun is now a tact driver (won't shoot core lokt) but anything else is good to go. That said If you wait till deer season is over you should be able to pick up a good used "Marlin 336" at a reasonable price.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:21 pm to m2pro
Pre-2005 and 2012 to current Marlins are fine to be absolutely certain if that's your biggest concern. I'm not sure when mine was made but it's stamped from the Ilion, NY plant (the same that makes Remington's rifles) so it has to be 2010 or later and it's a solid gun that has eaten every type of factory load I've fed it without issue. Some like to cite the pre-2007 as 2007 is the date when Remington actually acquired Marlin but Marlin was having serious QC issues years before Remington bought them. I think, based on the available evidence, Remington has the QC and production issues covered and will make very good rifles going forward. Some will continue to gripe no matter what though.
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