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Some Good News for the Future of Global Warming debate

Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:10 am
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:10 am
New batteries in singapore can be charged in 2 minutes and last up to 20 years. Now if we can get fusion up and going along with a grid capable of supporting the increased demand electric cars might have a shot in 20 years.

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ientists from Nanyang Technological University (NTU Singapore) have developed a new battery that can be recharged up to 70 per cent in only 2 minutes. The battery will also have a longer lifespan of over 20 years.
Expected to be the next big thing in battery technology, this breakthrough has a wide-ranging impact on many industries, especially for electric vehicles which are currently inhibited by long recharge times of over 4 hours and the limited lifespan of batteries.
This next generation of lithium-ion batteries will enable electric vehicles to charge 20 times faster than the current technology. With it, electric vehicles will also be able to do away with frequent battery replacements. The new battery will be able to endure more than 10,000 charging cycles -- 20 times more than the current 500 cycles of today's batteries.
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Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:17 am to
Amazing news if this works out.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:20 am to
But how long will charge last with "normal" operation?

If it charges in 2 minutes, but requires charging every 30 miles, that's not all that great.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:21 am to
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However, Prof Chen's new cross-linked titanium dioxide nanotube-based electrodes eliminate the need for these additives and can pack more energy into the same amount of space.
"Manufacturing this new nanotube gel is very easy," Prof Chen added. "Titanium dioxide and sodium hydroxide are mixed together and stirred under a certain temperature. Battery manufacturers will find it easy to integrate our new gel into their current production processes."


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Amazing news if this works out.


It really is IF(and thats a big if) it works out. These new batteries are cheaper and easier to produce and last alot longer.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:23 am to
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But how long will charge last with "normal" operation?

If it charges in 2 minutes, but requires charging every 30 miles, that's not all that great.


well I am just spitballing here, but the article says they have the ability to pack the same amount of energy into the same space. So I would imagine they have the same range as the current plug in hybrids just they would be cheaper and alot easier to recharge.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
98702 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:25 am to
That is a logical assumption, but it could also have a faster discharge rate.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:28 am to
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That is a logical assumption, but it could also have a faster discharge rate.


completely logical too, but this is still a big break through.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
7918 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:29 am to
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It really is IF(and thats a big if) it works out.


Agreed. Until the battery issue is solved no method of electricity production will provide the great leap forward.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 8:38 am to
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completely logical too, but this is still a big break through.


No doubt
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 9:25 am to
bump
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
10821 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 9:31 am to
If you want to know about batteries, you go to the experts. RCGROUPS.com

About 2-3 times a year, there is a huge "breakthrough" in battery technology. This has been going on for at least the last 7-8 years I have been flying electric models. It never pans out but maybe this time will be different.

Some company announces groundbreaking new battery - again
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 10:15 am to
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Some company announces groundbreaking new battery - again




I'm with you. Just like the Fusion breakthroughs.
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 10:18 am to
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Now if we can get fusion up and going along with a grid capable of supporting the increased demand electric cars might have a shot in 20 years.
Why wait on fusion?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 10:57 am to
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Why wait on fusion?


unlimited clean energy
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:28 am to
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unlimited clean energy
That doesn't answer my question. Why wait on the perfect solution, which may or may not ever arrive, when G3+ fission technology already exists (and G4 fission technology, which we know is net-positive and just needs development, is being prototyped already?)
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:30 am to
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That doesn't answer my question. Why wait on the perfect solution, which may or may not ever arrive, when G3+ fission technology already exists (and G4 fission technology, which we know is net-positive and just needs development, is being prototyped already?)


I was using it a time frame for reference. I am sure that Toyota, Ford, etc will start incorporating these batteries into cars regardless of fusion's status
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89511 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 11:59 am to
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Why wait on the perfect solution, which may or may not ever arrive, when G3+ fission technology already exists (and G4 fission technology, which we know is net-positive and just needs development, is being prototyped already?)


I'm with you, brah - we should be working on the newer, cleaner, better fission while we perfect fusion.

The country that harnassed the atom, should be the undisputed leader in nuclear energy - the Greenies demonizing nuclear, particularly after the 3-Mile Island incident, and, later Chernobyl, are to be blamed for shameless opportunism.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
98702 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 12:27 pm to
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I'm with you, brah - we should be working on the newer, cleaner, better fission while we perfect fusion. The country that harnassed the atom, should be the undisputed leader in nuclear energy - the Greenies demonizing nuclear, particularly after the 3-Mile Island incident, and, later Chernobyl, are to be blamed for shameless opportunism.


Get out of my head man!
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 1:19 pm to
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That is a logical assumption, but it could also have a faster discharge rate.



completely logical too, but this is still a big break through.



I don't think that's necessarily "logical" when looked at from a measurement standpoint. If it holds "X" amount of energy and the device uses "X" amount of energy to operate, why would you assume the discharge of the same amount of energy would be greater just because it charges faster? Where would the quicker discharged energy go?
Admittedly I have no deep education on battery discharge other than knowing the efficiency is usually on the device, not the battery so much.
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