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I keep hearing "not built to be a running team". Well why?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:15 am
Lots of people in the past few weeks have been calling for more run playcalls as we have great YPC numbers.
The response I hear from Bobby and other "experts" on WWL is that the Saints "aren't built for" a run heavy, ground & pound offense. But then no one ever asks "Why?" Why can't we try press our clear advantage indicated by the YPC? Why can't we go more run heavy to take the load off an obviously frustrated Brees?
Every year in the offseason, Payton says we are going to put added emphasis on running the ball this year. He's got the run game now but won't go full steam with it.
Cliffs: There's no reason why we can't be a run first offense. I don't care how much $$ drew makes.
The response I hear from Bobby and other "experts" on WWL is that the Saints "aren't built for" a run heavy, ground & pound offense. But then no one ever asks "Why?" Why can't we try press our clear advantage indicated by the YPC? Why can't we go more run heavy to take the load off an obviously frustrated Brees?
Every year in the offseason, Payton says we are going to put added emphasis on running the ball this year. He's got the run game now but won't go full steam with it.
Cliffs: There's no reason why we can't be a run first offense. I don't care how much $$ drew makes.
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Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:17 am to Brightside Bengal
I OL actually excels in run blocking...I think we are built to be a run first team but CSP insists on being a pass first team in order to setup the run. I wish we'd get to be more balanced instead of having Drew chunk it around 57 times a game.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:24 am to Gugich22
"not built to be a running team" means
"team was built by Sean Payton" which means
"Sean Payton was a QB, a QB coach, an offensive passing guru, and he is historically known to prefer passing over running" which eventually equals
"Saints weren't built to be a running team"
If an architect designs and builds a concrete park for senior citizens in wheelchairs to relax in, and then a bunch of kids discover that it's also good for skateboarding and doing tricks, that doesn't mean the park was built to be a skate park....
"team was built by Sean Payton" which means
"Sean Payton was a QB, a QB coach, an offensive passing guru, and he is historically known to prefer passing over running" which eventually equals
"Saints weren't built to be a running team"
If an architect designs and builds a concrete park for senior citizens in wheelchairs to relax in, and then a bunch of kids discover that it's also good for skateboarding and doing tricks, that doesn't mean the park was built to be a skate park....
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 11:26 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:25 am to Gugich22
quote:
I think we are built to be a run first team
i wouldnt necessaryily say we were built to be run first. Its probably more accurate to say that putting a premium on big guards and fast tackles to protect Brees in the pocket has resulted in a line that turns out to be quite good at the run game.
Anyone who says we dont run becuase we arent built for it is a full of shite Payton apologist. The numbers this year prove we can do it when we want - even better than in 2009.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:30 am to Brightside Bengal
I wouldn't call Bobby Hebert an expert
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:48 am to Brightside Bengal
I assume they mean CSP's brain cause we can run this year.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:52 am to BobBoucher
Ran the ball well in 06, 09, 11 and now 14.
Limit turnovers/cause turnovers and we'll be rolling.
Limit turnovers/cause turnovers and we'll be rolling.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:31 pm to Brightside Bengal
Line's PFF scores on run/pass blocking:
Game 1 (Run/Pass block)
Armstead: 2.8/-0.1
Grubbs: 3.3/0.4
Goodwin: 2.3/-1.9
Evans: -0.2/0.4
Strief: -1.2/2.4
Cumulative: 7.0/1.2
Game 2 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: 0.8/0.6
Grubbs: -0.7/-0.8
Goodwin: 1.3/0.5
Evans: 2.3/0.7
Strief: 3.3/1.6
Cumulative: 7.0/2.6
Game 3 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: -0.1/-0.2
Grubbs: -1.1/1.5
Goodwin: 0.1/-0.5
Lelito: 0.9/0.4
Evans: 0.4/-2.0
Strief: -1.1/2.3
Cumulative: -0.9/1.5
Game 4 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: -0.5/0.4
Harris: -2.9/-0.4
Grubbs: -0.8/-0.1
Goodwin: 0.4/-2.9
Evans: 0.7/-0.6
Strief: -0.8/-0.1
Cumulative: -3.9/-3.7
Game 5 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: 1.4/1.7
Grubbs: 2.8/-1.0
Goodwin: 0.8/-2.0
Lelito: 0.1/-2.5
Evans: 0.3/-6.5
Strief: -2.0/0.1
Cumulative: 3.4/-10.2
For the year:
Run Blocking 12.6 (+14 in the first 2 weeks)
Pass Blocking -8.6 (-13.9 in the last 2 weeks)
Atlanta: 28th ranked Run Defense
Cleveland: 29th ranked Run Defense
Minnesota: 19th ranked Run Defense
Dallas: 20th ranked Run Defense
Tampa Bay: 18th ranked Run Defense
Atlanta: 4 sacks on the year
Cleveland: 8 sacks on the year
Minnesota: 10 sacks on the year
Dallas: 5 sacks on the year
Tampa Bay: 9 sacks on the year
Game 1 (Run/Pass block)
Armstead: 2.8/-0.1
Grubbs: 3.3/0.4
Goodwin: 2.3/-1.9
Evans: -0.2/0.4
Strief: -1.2/2.4
Cumulative: 7.0/1.2
Game 2 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: 0.8/0.6
Grubbs: -0.7/-0.8
Goodwin: 1.3/0.5
Evans: 2.3/0.7
Strief: 3.3/1.6
Cumulative: 7.0/2.6
Game 3 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: -0.1/-0.2
Grubbs: -1.1/1.5
Goodwin: 0.1/-0.5
Lelito: 0.9/0.4
Evans: 0.4/-2.0
Strief: -1.1/2.3
Cumulative: -0.9/1.5
Game 4 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: -0.5/0.4
Harris: -2.9/-0.4
Grubbs: -0.8/-0.1
Goodwin: 0.4/-2.9
Evans: 0.7/-0.6
Strief: -0.8/-0.1
Cumulative: -3.9/-3.7
Game 5 (Run/Pass Block)
Armstead: 1.4/1.7
Grubbs: 2.8/-1.0
Goodwin: 0.8/-2.0
Lelito: 0.1/-2.5
Evans: 0.3/-6.5
Strief: -2.0/0.1
Cumulative: 3.4/-10.2
For the year:
Run Blocking 12.6 (+14 in the first 2 weeks)
Pass Blocking -8.6 (-13.9 in the last 2 weeks)
Atlanta: 28th ranked Run Defense
Cleveland: 29th ranked Run Defense
Minnesota: 19th ranked Run Defense
Dallas: 20th ranked Run Defense
Tampa Bay: 18th ranked Run Defense
Atlanta: 4 sacks on the year
Cleveland: 8 sacks on the year
Minnesota: 10 sacks on the year
Dallas: 5 sacks on the year
Tampa Bay: 9 sacks on the year
Posted on 10/10/14 at 12:41 pm to htran90
I would grade that paper a A+.
Nice
Nice
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