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blind love for cam and hate for les
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:00 am
I don't understand everyone calling for clm head because of the offense while they still back cam. Does anyone else notice how similar our offense is to the ravens before he got fired. Force the run on first and second then throw a deep ball (Flacco was basically just a downfield passer before cam got axed). I'd like to see more of an intermediate passing game and when Jennings is in much more over the middle since they seem to trust his reads but he doesn't have the arm strength for the 15 yard out
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:03 am to icegator337
Um, yeah. Baltimore fans complained that Cam didn't give the ball enough to Ray Rice and that he threw the ball too much.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:10 am to icegator337
It's been brought up. The people who don't see the absurdity of it don't want to see the absurdity of it.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:10 am to icegator337
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I don't understand everyone calling for clm head
This is really getting tiresome. The people "calling for his head" are a small minority. And out of those, a few have admitted that once they calmed down, they do not feel that way anymore. Criticism does not equal "calling for his head."
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:13 am to Choupique19
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I'd like to see more of an intermediate passing game and when Jennings is in much more over the middle since they seem to trust his reads but he doesn't have the arm strength for the 15 yard out
I agree ..hell I do not even recall any attempts ... but I may have missed them (beer drinking -lol)
I have seen other posters say that is because possible over-the-middle interceptions, but WE MUST TRY, or else,
the Ds will pin their ears back and come after us, knowing that we will not have much time for deep passes.
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Criticism does not equal "calling for his head."
+1
Also Miles gives this "unattached" attitude which does not help him.
I have not heard him once say, I / We need to do a better job (meaning coaches.
I have heard him be critical of the performance of the team.
Whether one likes Spurrier or not, he has taken open responsibility over the USC fiasco. ...thus fans feel like he is "working on fixing the problem"
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 11:20 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:13 am to Mo Jeaux
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The people "calling for his head" are a small minority.
Maybe they have calmed down as you said, but if you would have done one of those upvote/downvote polls on Monday, probably half of the ranters on the board would have voted to fire Miles mid-season. Recruiting and everything else be damned.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:13 am to icegator337
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I don't understand everyone calling for clm head because of the offense while they still back cam.
wanting the offense to improve does not mean wanting a guy fired.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:14 am to Navytiger74
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Maybe they have calmed down as you said, but if you would have done one of those upvote/downvote polls on Monday, probably half of the ranters on the board would have voted to fire Miles mid-season. Recruiting and everything else be damned.
If that's true, I apologize. Maybe people trolling? I'm basing my statement on the threads/posts that I'm reading here. I'm definitely a "negatiger" right now, but I'm not ready to fire Les immediately. Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:20 am to icegator337
Coach Cameron is a very smart man who has forgoten more football than we will ever know.
As far as our tendencies and philospohy, Muschamp said something similar in his comments about our 50/50 chance of hitting the jumpball deep, how we have gone to longer WR's. It is a trend in the NFL too. I think Richard Dickson said it too, we avoid most areas of the field to avoid interceptions, the defense knows this and what it has to defend and what it can not worry about. We want to run the ball, then play action pass deep in hopes of hitting a big one, but also keeping the safeties back. Like it or not, it is what our coaches prefer and we just have to deal with it. Would I like to see us have a multi-directional approach, attack ALL parts of the field? Of course. I am sure our coaches have their reasons for what they do, they see our guys every day and feel like their calls give us the best chance given where we are today.
As far as our tendencies and philospohy, Muschamp said something similar in his comments about our 50/50 chance of hitting the jumpball deep, how we have gone to longer WR's. It is a trend in the NFL too. I think Richard Dickson said it too, we avoid most areas of the field to avoid interceptions, the defense knows this and what it has to defend and what it can not worry about. We want to run the ball, then play action pass deep in hopes of hitting a big one, but also keeping the safeties back. Like it or not, it is what our coaches prefer and we just have to deal with it. Would I like to see us have a multi-directional approach, attack ALL parts of the field? Of course. I am sure our coaches have their reasons for what they do, they see our guys every day and feel like their calls give us the best chance given where we are today.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:21 am to Mo Jeaux
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I'm definitely a "negatiger" right now, but I'm not ready to fire Les immediately.
Describes me perfectly. I honestly think he's lost a lot of his fire and would like to see him facilitate a 3-4 year transition period before retiring with dignity. I really don't think he'll be coaching until he's 70 (he's just about to make 60 right now). I understand that CFB fans are impatient, but I would, for once, like to see the hiring process look orderly and deliberate. Take a year or two to find a scuccessor, bring him on and get him involved with the recruiting and building relationships, move him up by 2016 or 2017 with Miles agreeing to a minor re-structuring of his buy-out and serving the University in some capacity. Truth be told, I'm not really fond of the fact that our top three are so fricking old.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:24 am to TigerAlum93
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about our 50/50 chance of hitting the jumpball deep,
what you said is true, but the QB MUST be given time to throw deep I think that's where we fall short sometime
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:25 am to TigerAlum93
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Coach Cameron is a very smart man who has forgoten more football than we will ever know.
Such a tired argument. Charlie Weiss has forgotten more football than we'll ever know. Is he a good Coach? Bush and Obama know more about being president than any of us. Were/are they good Presidents?
I'm not saying Cam is a bad coach, though the rant's typical premature deification of him certainly appears unjustified at this point. But the offense he's putting on the field right now looks like shite. And again, I'm not talking about the scheme. I'm talking about the fact that we can't eexecute it.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 11:34 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:26 am to Navytiger74
can't blame the cook when he's being forced to cook with some shitty recipes. I've seen cam cameron offenses in college and the NFL, and never once seen a toss dive. He comes to LSU and suddenly loves this awful play? OK
I don't think Les is calling plays on game day, but if you don't think his finger prints are all over this offense in the game plan throughout the week you're nuts. There's been articles posted where Gundy and Henson said as much about Les.
I don't think Les is calling plays on game day, but if you don't think his finger prints are all over this offense in the game plan throughout the week you're nuts. There's been articles posted where Gundy and Henson said as much about Les.
This post was edited on 10/9/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:30 am to BilJ
Should have never let Jimbo get away...
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:32 am to BilJ
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can't blame the cook when he's being forced to cook with some shitty recipes.
Whether or not the cook is fond of the dish he's preparing, he needs to cook it well.
Our offense may well have a scheme problem, but it sure as shite has an execution problem. If Cam is responsible for fielding a competent offense, he is fricking up big time this year. Scheme be damned.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:37 am to jacktown
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Should have never let Jimbo get away..
Jimbo like Saban are much better coaches now than they ever were at LSU...
more years of experience and exposed to much more as well
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:38 am to Navytiger74
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Whether or not the cook is fond of the dish he's preparing, he needs to cook it well.
find a way to make dog shite tasty and get back to me
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:41 am to BilJ
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:43 am to icegator337
How many coordinators does Les need to go through before people stop blaming them
Posted on 10/9/14 at 11:45 am to icegator337
First it was Jimbo getting conservative in big games, then Crowton, then that mess with stud which was deserved
It can't always be the OC
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