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re: Move to Oregon if you think your life is bad
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:51 pm to Blah Blah Blah Dude
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:51 pm to Blah Blah Blah Dude
Could you imagine those last few days for her and her family? I bet the drive to the doctors office is going to be brutal just knowing that you are walking into that office to your own death. Man that is tough.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:03 pm to Kritten
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Why? I can be convinced but that statement pushes me more to the fight to the bitter end side.
I'm not sure you're referring to me, but anyway, think about it. Who is the one who is incredibly sick, and about to have an incredibly slow degradation and death? The woman. Who is anyone to call her "selfish" for making the decision she did? Consider it from the perspective of a family member saying that to her...you need to go through this suffering and painful death because I want you around, and ask yourself who is really the selfish one.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:52 pm to Blah Blah Blah Dude
That' so sad. Instead of killing herself she should enroll in a clinical trial which may one day help treat/cure her disease.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:59 pm to Blah Blah Blah Dude
life means nothing
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:09 pm to stout
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Could you imagine those last few days for her and her family? I bet the drive to the doctors office is going to be brutal just knowing that you are walking into that office to your own death. Man that is tough.
That will be excruciating. Most people only have a vague idea that they will die "one day." Knowing that today is that day, something few people experience, has got to be horrible.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:35 pm to Blah Blah Blah Dude
Sad story, but at least she gets to go out on her terms. frick cancer.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:21 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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So she should go on living and suffering because you or other people think she's giving up? That makes complete sense.
I never said she shouldn't do what she I doing. I am saying I wouldn't give up on everyone that cares for me that easily. You only get one shot at life and I am going to make the most of it and not just quit on myself and others.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:45 pm to Pintail
We buried a close friend of mines child couple months ago with this same form of cancer.
She made it a little over a year from diagnosis to last breath.
Most heartbreaking thing I've ever gone through with someone.
The story gets much worse... But I'll spare evryone.
Knowing what I saw with my own eyes and was told by my friend I don't blame this girl at all.
On a side note I had this old guy I played golf with every Friday for 5-6 years.
He developed liver cancer and doc gave him 3- 6 months no treatment ... A year with.
He chose no treatment and played 9 holes of golf two weeks before he died and went fishing week before.
He was 82, told me he lived a good life and was going to let nature run it's course.
She made it a little over a year from diagnosis to last breath.
Most heartbreaking thing I've ever gone through with someone.
The story gets much worse... But I'll spare evryone.
Knowing what I saw with my own eyes and was told by my friend I don't blame this girl at all.
On a side note I had this old guy I played golf with every Friday for 5-6 years.
He developed liver cancer and doc gave him 3- 6 months no treatment ... A year with.
He chose no treatment and played 9 holes of golf two weeks before he died and went fishing week before.
He was 82, told me he lived a good life and was going to let nature run it's course.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:46 pm to NoHoTiger
Did anybody actually click the link to her website?
Coupled with with headaches, and the sheer uncertainty oif it all. I can't imagine seeing someone and wondering 'is this the last time I'll see this person?' She could be healthy today, but have a seizure tomorrow and be incapacitated. Like I said, I don't know what I'd do in this situation, but I understand why she's doing it.
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Brittany Maynard's glioblastoma brain tumor is being treated with several strong prescription drugs designed to reduce swelling of the brain and to try to minimize debilitating seizures. Unfortunately, these drugs come with their own frustrating set of side effects including rapid weight gain and swelling of the face. In spite of some profound shyness regarding her new prescription drug-induced appearance, Brittany agreed to be interviewed on film regarding Death with Dignity because her strong belief in the ethics of this basic healthcare human right.
Coupled with with headaches, and the sheer uncertainty oif it all. I can't imagine seeing someone and wondering 'is this the last time I'll see this person?' She could be healthy today, but have a seizure tomorrow and be incapacitated. Like I said, I don't know what I'd do in this situation, but I understand why she's doing it.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:04 am to LSUGUMBO
I go back and forth on this topic. Is it wrong or is it honorable? To say that this is a form of suicide is the same notion that if someone in a coma with severe brain trauma and the family decides to pull the plug is considered murder. Her quality of life is quickly diminishing with no option for change. She's pulling her own plug and not allowing her family the pain of making that decision.
Sad to say the very least.
Sad to say the very least.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:05 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:05 am to Blah Blah Blah Dude
Good for her. Awful situation, though.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:10 am to kbyall
I don't judge people who are facing these circumstances. I do, however, disagree that going out before your time is the only way to do it with dignity. I think facing a terminal illness to the end is a very noble and courageous thing to do. I cannot imagine. Also, I'm uncertain of the religious implications. Which would prevent me from choosing such an end.
As for the laws in Oregon, do you have to be sick in order to legally procure life ending medications? Or can someone who is suicidal do so as well?
As for the laws in Oregon, do you have to be sick in order to legally procure life ending medications? Or can someone who is suicidal do so as well?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:14 am to drunkenpunkin
On October 27, 1997 Oregon enacted the Death with Dignity Act (the Act) which allows terminally-ill Oregonians to end their lives through the voluntary self-administration of lethal medications, expressly prescribed by a physician for that purpose.
Its not for everyone...
Its not for everyone...
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:16 am to kbyall
I think this should be legal and a personal right. She is constantly living with severe pain and with a disease that has no cure
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:21 am to TheIndulger
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is the documentary on Netflix?
That's where I watched it earlier this year. It is probably still there.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:25 am to Blah Blah Blah Dude
i had a good friend die from glioblastoma last year. he had 2 surgeries to resect the tumor. he lived about 15 months after the tumor was initially found. those 15 months were filled with constant nausea, headaches, pain, personality changes, etc. it was just awful.
i would not wish that upon my worst enemy.
i would not wish that upon my worst enemy.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:27 am to stout
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Could you imagine those last few days for her and her family? I bet the drive to the doctors office is going to be brutal just knowing that you are walking into that office to your own death. Man that is tough.
You can do it at home. You pick up your prescription and take it home. IIRC, you have to take it yourself, nobody can give it to you.
She can also delay it if she wants. It is a very heavily regulated process.
From Wiki:
"Under the law, a competent adult Oregon resident who has been diagnosed, by a physician, with a terminal illness that will kill the patient within six months may request in writing, from his or her physician, a prescription for a lethal dose of medication for the purpose of ending the patient's life. Exercise of the option under this law is voluntary and the patient must initiate the request. Any physician, pharmacist or healthcare provider who has moral objections may refuse to participate.
The request must be confirmed by two witnesses, at least one of whom is not related to the patient, is not entitled to any portion of the patient's estate, is not the patient's physician, and is not employed by a health care facility caring for the patient. After the request is made, another physician must examine the patient's medical records and confirm the diagnosis. The patient must be determined to be free of a mental condition impairing judgment. If the request is authorized, the patient must wait at least fifteen days and make a second oral request before the prescription may be written. The patient has a right to rescind the request at any time. Should either physician have concerns about the patient's ability to make an informed decision, or feel the patient's request may be motivated by depression or coercion, the patient must be referred for a psychological evaluation.
The law protects doctors from liability for providing a lethal prescription for a terminally ill, competent adult in compliance with the statute's restrictions. Participation by physicians, pharmacists, and health care providers is voluntary. The law also specifies a patient's decision to end his or her life shall not "have an effect upon a life, health, or accident insurance or annuity policy."
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 11:42 am to Blah Blah Blah Dude
got dammitt. Why did i watch that?
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