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Hypothetical - if the BCS had matched LSU up against Okie State in 2011 ...
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:47 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:47 am
And LSU had won the national championship, would your opinion of him be different?
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 12:41 pm
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:49 am to Methuselah
I truly believe some of them would be pissed that he won.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:49 am to Methuselah
Considering that his last Nc was 7 years ago and most peoples dislike of him starts with that nights performance against Bama, I'm sure it would.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:50 am to Methuselah
I think the opinion of the entire program would be different. Also, I think it would've been easier to keep kids home... Like last recruiting class.
The problem is the perception that the program has taken. That night caused most of it. Also, the other problem is that Haley has finished second on so many defensive line recruits and it's killing our depth. No one on our defensive line will play in the nfl. When's the last time that's been said?!
The problem is the perception that the program has taken. That night caused most of it. Also, the other problem is that Haley has finished second on so many defensive line recruits and it's killing our depth. No one on our defensive line will play in the nfl. When's the last time that's been said?!
Posted on 10/7/14 at 6:51 am to Methuselah
You mean would I think more favorably of Les had he led us to a 14-0 national championship? Of course. And I'm not even one of the ppl calling for his head right now.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:00 am to Methuselah
He would, without question, be the GOAT at LSU and that team would have gone down as one of the greatest teams in college football history...with JJ as QB 
so yes, I would that the people that hate him opinions would be different.
so yes, I would that the people that hate him opinions would be different.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:00 am to LSU4lyfe
quote:We have 14 freshmen and sophomores on our defensive line. There is no way for you to know this currently. Now, it wouldn't be surprising to see zero of our 5 juniors and seniors on the defensive line play in the NFL. But, a guy like Davon Godchaux (who is starting as a true freshman) has a great shot at playing in the NFL.
No one on our defensive line will play in the nfl.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:01 am to LSU4lyfe
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No one on our defensive line will play in the nfl. When's the last time that's been said?!
well this is false
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:02 am to Salmon
Too bad the reality is that game was the most embarrassing loss in LSU history.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:04 am to theunknownknight
it is too bad
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:04 am to Methuselah
Yes, absolutely. Most will tell you that the problem they had with Miles and the 2011 NCG was not that LSU lost. Bama was an incredible team as well that year. Completely forgivable to split the series 1-1 with them. Just sucked that the one LSU lost was the one that mattered more.
The problem most people had was HOW LSU lost that game. Watching that game was the only time in my entire life that I've truly believed that the game plan was not designed to win, but rather to lose by the smallest margin possible.
It was, and probably always will be, the most pitiful single-game coaching effort I will ever see (at least offensively).
The problem most people had was HOW LSU lost that game. Watching that game was the only time in my entire life that I've truly believed that the game plan was not designed to win, but rather to lose by the smallest margin possible.
It was, and probably always will be, the most pitiful single-game coaching effort I will ever see (at least offensively).
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 7:06 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:14 am to UGATiger26
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Watching that game was the only time in my entire life that I've truly believed that the game plan was not designed to win, but rather to lose by the smallest margin possible.
Did you watch LSU this past Saturday?
Same frustrating feeling as 2011 
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:15 am to Dlab2013
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Did you watch LSU this past Saturday? Same frustrating feeling as 2011
Not.Even.Close.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:18 am to Methuselah
I don't even want to think of it, we would've skulldragged OkSt
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:21 am to Methuselah
yea, much different
I don't dislike Miles as a coach and esp as a person, I just think he is kind of a dumbass sometimes with all his weird phrasing, grass eating and game day/ clock management decisions
I don't dislike Miles as a coach and esp as a person, I just think he is kind of a dumbass sometimes with all his weird phrasing, grass eating and game day/ clock management decisions
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:39 am to Jim Rockford
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I truly believe some of them would be pissed that he won
people that believe shite like this are truly the miserable ones
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:44 am to cas4t
My impression of Miles was formed in the Tennessee game in 2005 and he has done nothing since to change it. He is not bright, he is a poor game day coach and his coaching philosophy was formed during his days at Michigan and hasn't changed.
He is a good enough recruiter to use LSU's huge recruiting advantages to attract top ten recruiting classes. He coaches conservatively and counts on LSU's superior talent to eventually wear down inferior teams. Against teams with comparable talent, he plays to "have a chance to win it" in the fourth quarter and hopes that his talent will make enough plays to win.
Had he won the 2011 NC then LSU would have been "the" team in the nation and might have garnered the top recruiting classes that Bama got over the next few years. Instead, Bama was "the" team, LSU fell a little behind in recruiting and Miles is getting exposed. If he doesn't have superior talent, then he isn't going to win.
He is a good enough recruiter to use LSU's huge recruiting advantages to attract top ten recruiting classes. He coaches conservatively and counts on LSU's superior talent to eventually wear down inferior teams. Against teams with comparable talent, he plays to "have a chance to win it" in the fourth quarter and hopes that his talent will make enough plays to win.
Had he won the 2011 NC then LSU would have been "the" team in the nation and might have garnered the top recruiting classes that Bama got over the next few years. Instead, Bama was "the" team, LSU fell a little behind in recruiting and Miles is getting exposed. If he doesn't have superior talent, then he isn't going to win.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 7:45 am
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:47 am to Fabius
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If he doesn't have superior talent, then he isn't going to win.
this is true for every coach in that exists
sure, less talented teams will beat more talented teams on occasion, but to win consistently, all coaches rely on talent
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:49 am to Methuselah
"Hypothetically" ... national championships are about the 'best' teams. LSU obviously failed. Coaching has been analyzed ad nauseum.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:49 am to Salmon
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this is true for every coach in that exists
sure, less talented teams will beat more talented teams on occasion, but to win consistently, all coaches rely on talent
Hmmm...not true.
Having superior talent and best utilizing existing talent are two different things. You cannot tell me that Auburn was the most talented team in the SEC last year.
It takes a great coach to best utilize existing talent.
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