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re: The Flash Season One Thread

Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:13 am to
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:13 am to
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Yeah, Thawne didn't take over Wells' body. He changed his own body into Wells' by transfer Wells' DNA to his (or something like that). Wells' body is still around somewhere. I'm wondering if the body that Joe and Lance found in the preview will be Wells' body.


That makes sense. Remember Cisco saying that while older Barry's DNA was at the scene of Barry's Mom's murder, Wells' was not. Thawne was still Thawne when he killed the mom, and then afterwards turned in Wells.

Gotta' be honest...I like the Wells character, so if there's a way to have this new Thawne stay Reverse Flash AND get the actual Wells back played by the same actor, I'd be for it.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:13 am to
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Can someone explain why Thawne lost his powers but future Barry didn't? Or did he and future Barry is still out there somewhere.


We don't know what happened to adult Barry after he saved child Barry. He could've returned to his future or been zapped into some Speed Force dimension.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:16 am to
I'm pretty positive the real wells is dead. I was hoping for the same tho.
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:17 am to
Don't we know Barry didn't return to his future since we've seen the news paper?
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:22 am to
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I'm pretty positive the real wells is dead. I was hoping for the same tho.


Yeah...I mean it certainly looked like it.

I'm thinking more along the lines of what happened with Firestorm. Clearly Wells' DNA is still around, which is why when they tested it against the Nora Allen crime scene it wasn't there. What if...and I'm just spit balling here...Wells is still present in some form within RF? What if Thawne is able to get what he needs and in doing so releases Wells in some way?

I know I know...but it's not like they couldn't pull something like that out of their asses to keep the Wells father figure to Barry around. Now that Barry knows, that relationship is tainted and can't last long.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:29 am to
I for one am enjoying the flash more than arrow
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:32 am to
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Can someone explain why Thawne lost his powers but future Barry didn't? Or did he and future Barry is still out there somewhere.

In the comics, Barry Allen is the Speed Force. All other "speedsters" (past. present, and future) get their power from the Speed Force and thus from Barry Allen.

I'm guessing that when Thawne changed Barry's past, it somehow caused Barry not to become the Speed Force or not to fully develop the Speed Force. That is probably why Thawne's tie to the Speed Force was weakened, and why he is helping Barry develop his abilities.

Now what actually happened to future Flash is something I don't think we know yet.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 9:39 am
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:46 am to
I was really hoping Wells was future Barry turned more pragmatic. I am not a fan of the DNA transfer. What I had built up in my mind was more exciting, so it was hard for the show to live up to that.

Also, why is Reverse Flash always fat when in his suit but skinny outside of it?
Posted by SSpaniel
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Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 9:49 am to
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suit


When is Barry going to get the fancy suit ring thingy?
Posted by lagallifrey
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:07 am to
Well that was certainly my favorite episode of the season.

I think wells and thawne are merged to some degree. A lot of the pre-merge wells personality was similar to the current wells. At times he is still very likeable.

It was great to see his dad and the trickster together again. I keep wondering if there is a way in which his dad will be the flash stuck here from another time or universe, without his powers. At least some of the events from the older series seem to have happened, with some of the same characters. Maybe that's why he knew his son was the flash so early in the show. Either way they need at some point to have his dad run at flash speed, even if only temporarily.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:08 am to
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I was really hoping Wells was future Barry turned more pragmatic.


That would've been horrible on every level.
Posted by MartianManHunter
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:23 am to
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This show keeps getting better and better!


Yes it does!
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:43 am to
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In the comics, Barry Allen is the Speed Force. All other "speedsters" (past. present, and future) get their power from the Speed Force and thus from Barry Allen.

I'm guessing that when Thawne changed Barry's past, it somehow caused Barry not to become the Speed Force or not to fully develop the Speed Force. That is probably why Thawne's tie to the Speed Force was weakened, and why he is helping Barry develop his abilities.


Ahh that makes a lot of sense thanks.
Posted by Kayhill Brown
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 10:52 am to
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Wells is still present in some form within RF?


I suppose it is possible. I’m not familiar with the comics but is RF supposed to be smart enough to build the accelerator? I know he knows the future but you’d still have to be pretty smart. If not, seems like the original Wells would have to be in there a little, right?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:09 am to
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I suppose it is possible. I’m not familiar with the comics but is RF supposed to be smart enough to build the accelerator? I know he knows the future but you’d still have to be pretty smart. If not, seems like the original Wells would have to be in there a little, right?

In the comics, Thawne is from the distant future (like 25th century). He was genetically engineered to be extremely smart. He ended up becoming a scientist at the Flash Museum studying the Speed Force. He eventually got his hands on the cosmic treadmill, recreated the accident that gave Barry his powers, and traveled back in time to try and meet Barry. One of his nicknames in the comics is Professor Zoom (for good reason).

So yeah, he's smart enough to build the particle accelerator.
This post was edited on 4/1/15 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Kayhill Brown
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:38 am to
Welp, nevermind then
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/1/15 at 11:40 am to
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Don't we know Barry didn't return to his future since we've seen the news paper?


The headline reads "Flash Missing". Could mean that he traveled into the past and hadn't returned.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:09 pm to
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Could mean that he traveled into the past and hadn't returned


This is what I'm thinking also. Which means future Barry has been and still is somewhere in the present.

Also noticed that older Thawne told Wells that he need the particle accelerator created 5 years sooner than before. Wonder if this has any significance in the storyline?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:23 pm to
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This is what I'm thinking also. Which means future Barry has been and still is somewhere in the present.

It could mean that.

Or it could just be a case of Wells focusing on that exact point in history when Flash disappeared to gauge the changes in the timeline. For all we know, The Flash could've returned an hour after the headline was made.
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 4/1/15 at 1:46 pm to
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The Flash could've returned an hour after the headline was made


I thought this also, but doesn't Wells/Thawne's computer Gideon(?) have access to future events? So it would know if Barry had returned an hour later.

Now it would be crazy if the skeleton Joe finds in the previews where actually future Barry's!!!
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