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Where is chavis failing more? Schematically or developing LBs?

Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:21 am
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:21 am
We've discussed the failures of his scheme plenty lately....but for a supposed LB guru the play of our linebackers has been pretty bad the last few years. We signed about 20 LBs two years ago and only 1 has developed into a halfway decent player, he continues to trot out welter, who is probably the least talented MLB we've had in quite a while, because he can't coach up ANYONE to take his spot, he'll, the best LBs during his tenure ( shep, Riley, and minter) weren't even recruited by him, everything else has been meh to poor.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:22 am to
Talent evaluation
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3580 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:23 am to
Weak up the middle and not providing enough help.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38123 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:23 am to
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developing LBs?


That's what he was known for...I don't know what happened to that.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:24 am to
If we had two studly DTs in the middle his "scheme" would be working perfectly.

Scheme is only there to take advantage of your players skill set. You need a full compliment of skill compared to the other team before your scheme can become effective.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:25 am to
it is hard to evaluate talent when you refuse to leave your office and go on the recruiting trail.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38259 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:25 am to
Having his defense on the field for a majority of the game because our offense is so inept never helps either.

But seriously, this defense can't stop the run consistently. The only success well see if when an opposing offense has to pass to catch up and can play to our strength in the secondary. When they can remain completely balanced, we're shite out of luck.
Posted by TigerRagAndrew
Check my style out
Member since Aug 2004
7217 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:36 am to
Sheppard and Riley were recruited to Tennessee by Chavis and there was a specific article mentioning that. Minter was coached by Chavis the entire time. We have had issues at that position since Minter left.


I wouldn't trust anyone from East Feliciana Parish to be able to learn their way out of a wet paper bag.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:38 am to
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Having his defense on the field for a majority of the game because our offense is so inept never helps either.


They don't help themselves when they take every third down off.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
#WoF
Member since Feb 2007
103065 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:38 am to
Defensive LIne is the biggest problem on the D.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:43 am to
quote:

Where is chavis failing more? Schematically or developing LBs?


Won't recruit or evaluate talent for suitability to his scheme. Development looks shoddy. The scheme is shite.

Chavis is mailing it in. He's had two decent years, one great year 2011, and two very mediocre years, and now he's on track to set SEC records. Tennessee fans and negatigers were warning us about him even when he looked like a breath of fresh air after the 2008 debacle.
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10175 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:43 am to
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Schematically or developing LBs?


None of the above.

quote:

Where is chavis failing more?


Keeping Welter on the field. You could make a highlight film on bad reads and not getting off blocks. I saw where we are worst in the nation in running up the middle and QB runs. He is the main contributor to this stat.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:45 am to
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Won't recruit or evaluate talent for suitability to his scheme. Development looks shoddy. The scheme is shite.

This, and it is a program wide problem. We seem to amass a hodge podge of talent and then try to jam the square pieces into the peg hole.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127404 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 8:46 am to
Some more athleticism would be nice.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:00 am to
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Defensive LIne is the biggest problem on the D


well we need to have a chat with brick there as well, because we're either missing on evaluations or these guys are being severely undercoached. Either way, its not good.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:01 am to
It is a combination, we are missing on guys, we aren't coaching them up and they are overall weak. teams toss our DT around like a rag doll.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:02 am to
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Some more athleticism would be nice.


The only way Chavis sheme can work is if he has elite athletes at every position. The Dline is severely lacking in talent. 2 out of 3 LB positions are pretty awful. Secondary is still playing solid without a pass rush and having to constantly look to play the run. The only way to get around our issues is for the DC to draw up a scheme that confuses the Offense and allows the D to hide some of their weaknesses. IMO, Chavis is entirely incapable of this.
Posted by koLSU86
Member since Aug 2012
3471 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:03 am to
Starting and giving significant playing time to DJ Welter is a failure in itself. Beckwith consistently makes more plays than Welter and it's obvious plays that anyone could notice.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27421 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:15 am to
Brick Haley has gots to go

Of course, that's Chavis' guy.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158760 posts
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:22 am to
God as much as I loathe Ed O we could at least use the guy's fire, this D just looks punchless.
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