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Parenting, Ego & Relinquishing The Illusion Of Control...

Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:18 pm
Here's my premise, based on having three tremendously good little human beings as children , my beloved Surly, Angry and Befuddled. I will accomplish this through capitalizing random letters and words in a manner that will infuriate 53.7% of you.

The key to being an effective parent and raising kids who are well-adjusted, happy and successful is TO RELINQUISH THE ILLUSION OF CONTROL.

Some of the worst parents are the ones who operate under the assumption that they can CONTROL their children and achieve the desired results via control. Short term this works. But this will very often result in achieving the exact opposite over the long-term.

The correct approach is to create an environment where children can have maximum personal freedom, where they are allowed to make mistakes without Draconian consequences, think and express themselves freely, and be allowed to reject or embrace their own philosophy on life themselves. This depends on having a mother and father who consistently provide a warm and understanding environment and set a good example on a daily basis.

By relinquishing the egoistic idea that you can effect LASTING ( the key word here) results through Control, and allowing them to experience cause and effect on their own, you give them the best chance at a happy successful life.

Half of parenting imho is deciding that you will not damage your own children through your own deficiencies and biases, but rather put your ego away and just RELENTLESSLY LOVE AND RESPECT YOUR KIDS as they figure things out on their own.

Ok, now tell me why I'm full of shite...tldr, etc...

Posted by blue_morrison
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:20 pm to
I take my parenting advice from cosmo magazine
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:23 pm to
make a post about spanking & you'll quickly see that a large number of people think beating their kid is the most important thing.
Posted by Moemoe455
Ponchatoula, Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

make a post about spanking & you'll quickly see that a large number of people think beating their kid is the most important thing.


I didn't ever get beat but I got my fair share of arse whippings! Then heard "I only do it because I love you" HAHAHAH Didn't feel that way!
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Ok, now tell me why I'm full of shite...tldr, etc...



I think you're mostly full of correct. Over pampering and over babying kids results in so many dysfunctional adults we have today.

Like grown men still living with mommy and daddy into their late 20's etc.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:26 pm to
So is this freudian bullshite for or against the beating of children?
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:27 pm to
but you are generally correct. We treated our kids like they mattered not like they were property.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:28 pm to
I agree. I'm just starting out. First kid is almost one. I hope I'm half the father my dad was. Ell jr. Might stand a chance then.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:29 pm to
quote:

make a post about spanking & you'll quickly see that a large number of people think beating their kid is the most important thing.




It's not nearly as important as people think. I spanked most of my children (except for two) and they almost all turned out to be pieces of shite. The two I never laid a hand on, also turned out to be pieces of shite.

So it really didn't make that big a difference.
This post was edited on 10/4/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16742 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:30 pm to
Tl;dr

Our duty is to teach our kids to make the best decisions when it is no longer possible for us to make those decisions for them.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:31 pm to


What an utter load of horse shite
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

I didn't ever get beat but I got my fair share of arse whippings! Then heard "I only do it because I love you"




I thought that was the line fed to wives?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78555 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:32 pm to
quote:

What an utter load of horse shite


Go ahead...we are listening...
Posted by The Third Leg
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Member since May 2014
10046 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
The best way to make a kid a piece of shite is to make all their decisions for them.

I think one of the things overlooked in parenting is grounding during summer. What a quick way to retard development. I had friends with totalitarian parents who would socially isolate during important periods, just thoughtless.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:40 pm to
Well the OP is speaking in absolutes where they do not apply.
Some kids (his) respond to his /her method of parenting. Others will not. Moreover, what is the actual age of these little angels? Will the total freedom the OP advocates work as the children age? I certainly appreciate his perspective, but to say that THIS is the best way to raise a child, is foolish.
Posted by DosManos
Member since Oct 2013
3552 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

think one of the things overlooked in parenting is grounding during summer. What a quick way to retard development. I had friends with totalitarian parents who would socially isolate during important periods, just thoughtless


Interesting point. I experienced something similar in high school.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85026 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:44 pm to
You are the one talking in absolutes. He said nothing about total freedom.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2542 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:47 pm to
or just beat the shite out of them
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
Member since May 2012
55591 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:48 pm to
This thread will become a pissing match by the third page.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78555 posts
Posted on 10/4/14 at 12:49 pm to
You do realize I say this within the framework of setting an example that you are personally proud of, of course. I'm not saying have an "anything goes" household where life is unpredictable and flaky, I just mean you let them make decisions, live with those decisions but remain more of a Teacher and less of a Warden.

See, Control is just an illusion. You can be a dick. But you'll just end up being a dick who has kids who hate him. In the end you really have no lasting control over other humans, even your children. Your influence can be either negative or positive.
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