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76 million chase accounts hacked

Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:34 pm
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
13538 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:34 pm
Just in time for the zombie Ebola apocalypse

Trusted source
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63065 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:38 pm to
Fuuuuck
Posted by SundayFunday
Member since Sep 2011
9302 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:41 pm to
frick me..
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29483 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:42 pm to
Another reason I don't deal with large banks, besides their shitty service. Too big of a target for hackers.

frick Chase, B of A and all those crooks.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:42 pm to
From you link:
quote:

The lack of any apparent profit motive has generated speculation among law enforcement officials and security experts that the hackers were sponsored by foreign governments either in Russia or in southern Europe.
I knew it! Those damn Italians!!!

ETA:
quote:

In the filing, JPMorgan said there was no evidence that account information, including passwords or Social Security numbers, were taken.
WHEW!
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 4:44 pm
Posted by Mac
Forked Island, USA
Member since Nov 2007
14658 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:43 pm to
quote:

The breach affected anyone who visited the company’s websites, including Chase.com, or used its mobile app


Awesome.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
80781 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:44 pm to
Does this include credit cards? I have 2 CCs with chase but thankfully no bank accounts
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63065 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:47 pm to
quote:

And unlike those retailers, JPMorgan has far more sensitive financial information about customers. Investigators in law enforcement remain puzzled by the attack on the bank because there is no evidence that the attackers looted any customer money from accounts.

The lack of any apparent profit motive has generated speculation among law enforcement officials and security experts that the hackers were sponsored by foreign governments either in Russia or in southern Europe.


Are they intentionally ignoring the very likely possibility that the US did it?
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:49 pm to
So how are 76 million accounts compromised yet:

quote:

In the filing, JPMorgan said there was no evidence that account information, including passwords or Social Security numbers, were taken.


I'm assuming that the "state sponsored" angle of the attack just means the attackers weren't interested in the accounts.

So does this mean it's time to switch banks, or can we assume that after this breach Chase will actually have better security in place than the banks that haven't been hit and forced to improve their security yet?
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:50 pm to
so did they take my info or what?
Posted by LSUFAN2005
Member since Aug 2004
1728 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:54 pm to
Oh thats just great. Chase is my main account and I have a pretty decent amount in there right now.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63065 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

So does this mean it's time to switch banks, or can we assume that after this breach Chase will actually have better security in place than the banks that haven't been hit and forced to improve their security yet?


They will most definitely take steps to improve security. The scary part, though, is that banks have pretty ridiculous requirements already. Assuming Chase has implemented everything, it makes me wonder what exactly can be done to prevent something like this.

With the technology and intelligence people have these days, I can see cyber crimes becoming as punishable as treason as the last measure of prevention. The sky is the limit for hackers otherwise.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:57 pm to
From the official disclosure:

quote:

• User contact information – name, address, phone number and email address – and internal JPMorgan Chase information relating to such users have been compromised.

• The compromised data impacts approximately 76 million households and 7 million small businesses.

• However, there is no evidence that account information for such affected customers – account numbers, passwords, user IDs, dates of birth or Social Security numbers – was compromised during this attack.

• As of such date, the Firm continues not to have seen any unusual customer fraud related to this incident.

• JPMorgan Chase customers are not liable for unauthorized transactions on their account that they promptly alert the Firm to.

LINK

The question is, is internal information descriptive like "OT Baller" or do I need to get my mom to change her maiden name now?
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31162 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:58 pm to
quote:

By the time JPMorgan first suspected the breach in late July, hackers had already “rooted,” or gained the highest level of privilege to, more than 90 computer servers, according to several people briefed on the results of the bank’s forensics investigation who were not allowed to discuss the breach publicly. It is still not clear how hackers managed to gain deep access to the bank’s computer network.

By the time the bank’s security team discovered the breach in late July, hackers had already gained the highest level of administrative privilege to more than 90 of the bank’s computer servers, according to several people briefed on the results of the bank’s forensics investigation who were not allowed to discuss it publicly.


So I'm getting, from these two paragraphs, that they found out about it in july and it affected 90 servers.
Posted by fouldeliverer
Lannisport
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 4:58 pm to
Chase says (if you believe them) just contact info like addresses and phone numbers were taken, Not passwords.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63065 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:02 pm to
I imagine PAN and other account related information is stored on a completely isolated environment from general personal information. That is the best way to do it (for security and audit purposes), and is the only way I can think of that makes those statements true.
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38918 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:02 pm to
quote:

Chase says (if you believe them) just contact info like addresses and phone numbers were taken, Not passwords.


Anyone with a phone book can get that info about me.

Sorry Chase. Not buying it.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61520 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

Chase says (if you believe them) just contact info like addresses and phone numbers were taken, Not passwords.


I can believe that. Having user names and passwords stored in a separate system that the hackers weren't able to access doesn't seem unreasonable except for the fact that they're surprised it didn't happen. The state sponsored angle makes sense. If Russia/China were to drain the accounts of 20% of Americans, that's an act of war. But perhaps it was done by the KGB to show the CIA "we can breach your banks too so stop trying to shut down our botnet."
Posted by LSUBanker
Gonzales, La
Member since Sep 2003
2552 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:06 pm to
Your main concern here is that the hackers will use this information (name, address, email, phone number) for Phishing attacks....to get your password and account information.
Posted by NoHoTiger
So many to kill, so little time
Member since Nov 2006
45739 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I have 2 CCs with chase but thankfully no bank accounts

I have a couple of bank accounts with them, but luckily no money in them
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