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ESPN Momentum : "Harris' QBR #1 in the SEC, #1 FBS D-1" + top Passer Rating
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:15 pm
Momentum: Harris takes the top ESPN SEC ranking for QBR, and top NCAA Passer Efficiency Rating on the Road to Auburn. (#1 in FBS Div-I for QBs with more than 50 plays) Plus whenever Harris has been in the game LSU has been noticeably more efficient on both sides of the ball, scoring touchdowns in 12 of his 15 possessions. That is 84 pts in less than 3 qtrs of playing time, the highest avg scoring rate in the nation. All that while still calling plays from the sideline, except when Harris went spread option shotgun and HUNH for the last 2 min of the MSST game, almost pulling off a win. After that performance Miles is looking to go with more spread option and up tempo to let Harris make more plays with his arm and his feet, making life harder on defenses. Cam called 30 plays with at least 3 wideouts and only 8 with 2 TEs in the NM State game.
Harris defended Jennings and reminded everyone "it's going to take two quarterbacks to make this thing work this year."
3 games in the SEC West Showdown this weekend match up the top 6 SEC West teams: it is all still out there for the taking. The SEC West has the highest Power Index in history, twice as high as the SEC East but how that will stand after intense divisional play is uncertain.
ESPN Video: Harris Ranked #1 in SEC Brad Edwards, 18 yrs w/ESPN, discusses that there is no experienced "SEC road starter" at LSU and that Harris, ranked #1 in SEC QBR, has not only played better, Auburn is going to try and make LSU pass, and Harris is the better passer.
Harris' NCAA Passer Efficiency Rating is 243 and his QBR is 95.5, both top marks in the SEC.
He has 6 passing TDs and 3 rushing TDs in a little under 3 qtrs of playing time.
LSU has scored in 12 of 15 possessions w/Harris: 84 pts
Jennings' Passer Rating is 137 and his QBR is 37.4. w/ 5 passing TDs 1st 2 games, none since. He has no rushing TDs.
By comparison Prescott has the 3rd highest Passer rating at 178, and 4th highest QBR of 86, with 11 passing TDs, 3 rushing TDs.
Rating vs Ranking: Harris' NCAA Passer Rating, per Jeff Williams, NCAA's Div-1 Stats Analyst, will qualify for official ranking when he averages 15 atts/game, although any passer, even Terrance Magee's one pass generates a rating 469.
ESPN's QBR, has a higher statistical correlation with a team's AP ranking, won/loss record, and Bowl Selection. It takes into account modern spread option offenses and everything a QB does.
Harris defended Jennings and reminded everyone "it's going to take two quarterbacks to make this thing work this year."
3 games in the SEC West Showdown this weekend match up the top 6 SEC West teams: it is all still out there for the taking. The SEC West has the highest Power Index in history, twice as high as the SEC East but how that will stand after intense divisional play is uncertain.
ESPN Video: Harris Ranked #1 in SEC Brad Edwards, 18 yrs w/ESPN, discusses that there is no experienced "SEC road starter" at LSU and that Harris, ranked #1 in SEC QBR, has not only played better, Auburn is going to try and make LSU pass, and Harris is the better passer.
quote:
"People tend to think let's go with the guy who has the most experience in a big SEC game on the road. The problem (with that argument) is although Jennings has 6 starts, 2 were at neutral sites and 4 were at home. So with no road experience edge you go with the guy who is better and Harris has clearly played better. QBR, the metric we use, to evaluate everything a QB does, rushing, passing, sacks, penalties...Brandon Harris, for guys who have a minimum of 50 action plays is ranked #1 in the SEC in QBR, Jennings is ranked 15th or last. ... Our stats show clearly Brandon Harris has played the better of the two. And Auburn is going to try to stack the line and force LSU to throw the ball and Harris is the better passer."
Harris' NCAA Passer Efficiency Rating is 243 and his QBR is 95.5, both top marks in the SEC.
He has 6 passing TDs and 3 rushing TDs in a little under 3 qtrs of playing time.
LSU has scored in 12 of 15 possessions w/Harris: 84 pts
Jennings' Passer Rating is 137 and his QBR is 37.4. w/ 5 passing TDs 1st 2 games, none since. He has no rushing TDs.
By comparison Prescott has the 3rd highest Passer rating at 178, and 4th highest QBR of 86, with 11 passing TDs, 3 rushing TDs.
Rating vs Ranking: Harris' NCAA Passer Rating, per Jeff Williams, NCAA's Div-1 Stats Analyst, will qualify for official ranking when he averages 15 atts/game, although any passer, even Terrance Magee's one pass generates a rating 469.
ESPN's QBR, has a higher statistical correlation with a team's AP ranking, won/loss record, and Bowl Selection. It takes into account modern spread option offenses and everything a QB does.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:18 pm to Quid Pro Quo
QBR is a bullshite stat.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:20 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:
QBR is a bullshite stat.
Not while an LSU player is in first place on it
as soon as that is no longer the case.....YEP. bullshite stat
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:22 pm to Quid Pro Quo
While that makes me feel good and I admittedly know nothing about QBR, I have to say that we have seen so little of harris, we really don't have any idea how good he is or is not....
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:24 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Brandon Harris is the truth.
We are gonna frick auburn up
We are gonna frick auburn up
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:26 pm to Quid Pro Quo
It is a stupid statistic. But, I have been impressed with Harris. I criticized him early after the Wisconsin game. However, since then, he has been fantastic. I am excited to watch Him Saturday.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:28 pm to Burt Reynolds
Harris has looked great,but come on...give the guy more snaps...pulling for him though!
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:29 pm to Spankum
He is good...I can see him becoming one of the best QB's in LSU history if he stays helthy and his supporting cast does the same...LSU has serious talent here now and more coming...
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:30 pm to TN Bhoy
quote:
QBR is a bullshite stat.
It has some minor flaws, but it's much more indicative of QB performance than the old passer rating.
Note- Here come extreme examples of outliers with the QBR system.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:32 pm to schexyoung
Brad Edwards is a Gump. He needs to DIAF.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:33 pm to LSUfan97
It is a stupid statistic. But,
Scoring at such a high rate is not stupid but quite amazing especially with an LSU offense.
Scoring at such a high rate is not stupid but quite amazing especially with an LSU offense.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:46 pm to themunch
You are definitely correct. Our offense has been vanilla after losing mettenberger, landry, and Beckham. Aside from the Jennings to Dural occasional hook up, all we do is run. I believe that Harris gives us a chance to have an exciting offense.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:56 pm to Quid Pro Quo
What's most telling is in the last three games, two of them cupcakes, Jennings has 0 TD's and 3 INT's.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 6:59 pm to Quid Pro Quo
Regardless of whether QBR is a bullshite stat (it is) and regardless of whether Harris has seen much defensive pressure (he hasn't), Harris has performed at an incredibly high level.
Miles and Cam clearly feel comfortable allowing Harris to operate a less conservative scheme.
Harris has performed well. I believe he will continue to perform well against an SEC defense that will try to confuse and pressure him.
One of Harris's greatest strengths is his ability to adlib when the play breaks down.
Although the offensive line made a quantum leap last week in adapting to the new blocking schemes, Auburn is not NMSU. Harris will need to extend plays. Thankfully, the Auburn d-line is not what it used to be.
I am very optimistic about how LSU will perform on offense.
Miles and Cam clearly feel comfortable allowing Harris to operate a less conservative scheme.
Harris has performed well. I believe he will continue to perform well against an SEC defense that will try to confuse and pressure him.
One of Harris's greatest strengths is his ability to adlib when the play breaks down.
Although the offensive line made a quantum leap last week in adapting to the new blocking schemes, Auburn is not NMSU. Harris will need to extend plays. Thankfully, the Auburn d-line is not what it used to be.
I am very optimistic about how LSU will perform on offense.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:03 pm to Quid Pro Quo
I think most people's expectations about Harris against Auburn might be too high. I think Harris gives us a chance to win the game certainly. But in 2012 when Mettenberger was the QB against an awful Auburn team, LSU escaped with a 12-10 win at JH.
I believe we have a legitimate shot at winning Saturday if things go our way on offense, defense and special teams. But, I have to be realistic based on what I've seen so far this year.
I believe we have a legitimate shot at winning Saturday if things go our way on offense, defense and special teams. But, I have to be realistic based on what I've seen so far this year.
This post was edited on 10/1/14 at 7:05 pm
Posted on 10/1/14 at 7:40 pm to schexyoung
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It has some minor flaws, but it's much more indicative of QB performance than the old passer rating.
not at all.
Posted on 10/1/14 at 8:28 pm to Quid Pro Quo
question about the plays coming in from the sideline, what all goes in to that decision ? What are all the possible reasons you do that as opposed to the huddle ? TIA
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:32 pm to Big Moe
Wow, I've never seen Thomas so cross before. I wonder what Sir Topemhat's going to say.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 2:50 pm to Droplinebacker
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scoring touchdowns in 12 of his 15 possessions. That is 84 pts in less than 3 qtrs of playing time, the highest avg scoring rate in the nation
All that with no interceptions, unless you want to get cheap and call the Hail Mary that is on Miles for not putting in the best Dual Threat QB in the SEC. "I feel like I throw the ball better than anyone in my class. I have the best arm in the class. As far as athleticism, I feel like I’m the best athlete and I throw more than I run it.” Harris talking to Auburn after Malzahn heavily recruited him, calling him "Mini Cam Newton" and promising him the #1 jersey Newton wore and Harris wore in HS.
"bullshite and Thomas the train posts" really must call for deep cogitation.
QBR is here to stay and is a necessary benchmark for today's modern game where Dual Threat QBs in modern offenses, both in the NFL and FBS, are recruited for their feet and read option skills as much if not more than their arm. If you want to control the game, tempo, and the D you face, put 4 and 5 vertical threats on the field to spread the O line and create a mathematical mismatch with the D. The QB is often one of the best runners on the field and he waits for the D to commit or drop into coverage. With man on man, the DBs backs are to the ball, and the QB from the shotgun has a better view of his options than the D has of theirs.
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