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Mark Cuban vs Daryl Morey War of Words
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:08 pm
From Morey:
Cuban responds:
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Morey challenged the implication Cuban made about the Rockets' overlooking team chemistry
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"But let's be clear: If the money's equal between the Rockets and Mavericks, I think players are picking Houston. Every time. For Dwight [Howard], I just don't think it was a hard choice between us and Dallas. If you want to win, you're going to want to join our organization."
Cuban responds:
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"He's got some Donald Trump in him where he really doesn't understand media that well, but he's a smart guy."
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Cuban on Daryl Morey's comments that if teams want to win a championship they need to go to Houston: "I'm not sure how he would know that."
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:10 pm to okietiger
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Cuban on Daryl Morey's comments that if teams want to win a championship they need to go to Houston: "I'm not sure how he would know that."
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:12 pm to okietiger
quote:Hakeem retired like 15 years ago, not sure what he's referring to
If you want to win, you're going to want to join our organization.
The last time Houston won anything most players in the league were in diapers
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:13 pm to okietiger
Looking forward to the games between these two teams this year.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:13 pm to danman6336
Morey has probably made the better moves as of late, but that's kinda silly to go after a guy who just won a championship 4 years ago.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:14 pm to danman6336
I mean, nothing Morey said is wrong. If y'all put yalls biases aside, Houston is definitely more set up to win a championship than Dallas. IF the money were the same I don't see any reason a player would pick Dallas over Houston, unless they have a loyalty (a la Dirk) or play Center or 2-guard.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:15 pm to PurpleDrank18
Talent-wise it's not question that Houston is better than Dallas.
But anyone who's not a Houston-homer should have some questions regarding the chemistry of a team centered around Harden and Dwight.
But anyone who's not a Houston-homer should have some questions regarding the chemistry of a team centered around Harden and Dwight.
This post was edited on 9/29/14 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:16 pm to okietiger
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Morey has probably made the better moves as of late, but that's kinda silly to go after a guy who just won a championship 4 years ago.
You didn't read Wojo's article.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:17 pm to okietiger
once Dwight destroys the franchise, which will likely happen very soon, we will all look back at these quotes and laugh
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:18 pm to PortCityTiger24
I didn't, but Cuban started it first right?
Shouldn't say "go after", but rather, shouldn't have responded in that fashion.
Not that it matters. Funny to read from a third party perspective.
Shouldn't say "go after", but rather, shouldn't have responded in that fashion.
Not that it matters. Funny to read from a third party perspective.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:20 pm to okietiger
Although I do think that whole narrative is overblown, I'm not gonna sit here an sunshine pump. It wouldn't shock me in the least if the Rockets got the 7 or 8 seed in the West. It also wouldn't shock me if they stay in the top four. However if I had to put money on it, I'd say they finish at 6.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:20 pm to PortCityTiger24
This is what Cuban was "responding" to
Cuban has been butthurt since Dwight signed with Houston over Dallas
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For months, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has unleashed a barrage of slights and snipes onto the Houston Rockets, framing the regime of general manager Daryl Morey in the most unflattering of ways. It has been an undermining, calculated campaign. Just understand this, though: No longer does it go unanswered.
In this fierce feud born of bitter competition – from Cuban deriding Dwight Howard's decision to choose Houston, to hiring Rockets executive Gersson Rosas as GM only to have him resign and return to Houston months later, to stealing free agent Chandler Parsons with a maximum contract – Cuban has fully engaged Houston and escalated a rivalry into a burgeoning blood war
Cuban has been butthurt since Dwight signed with Houston over Dallas
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Morey has played a part in feeding the frenzy, too. "I think [Cuban's] pissed that we went after Dirk [Nowitzki] in free agency, however unsuccessful it was," Morey told Yahoo Sports. Yes, Morey respects the tactical purposes behind Cuban's crusade, but rejects his reasoning as flawed – even downright untrue.
"We've been pretty good, and I think he's doing a smart thing to take on a rival," Morey told Yahoo Sports late Sunday. "He should want to beat up on San Antonio, too, but it's hard to paint the Spurs that way. So he's directed his bully pulpit onto us. Our owner stays above the fray, so I'm outgunned honestly.
"But let's be clear: If the money's equal between the Rockets and Mavericks, I think players are picking Houston. Every time. For Dwight [Howard], I just don't think it was a hard choice between us and Dallas. If you want to win, you're going to want to join our organization. We have a first-team All-NBA player in his prime [James Harden]. They have an enormously talented superstar [Dirk Nowitzki] but he obviously isn't 24 years old.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:21 pm to okietiger
quote:this is a battle that Cuban can't win. I'm a big Cuban fan but Morey is on another level.
Mark Cuban vs Daryl Morey War of Words
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:23 pm to PortCityTiger24
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In Cuban's most recent baiting of the Rockets, he proclaimed that Morey had little regard for player chemistry, relying largely on the merits of math. Morey seethed over the premise and fired back to Yahoo Sports: "I completely reject it."
"Our teams have had great chemistry, and it's something we believe in. Hey, if Mark believed so much in chemistry, he wouldn't have busted up a title team for cap room. He's trying to reunite a lot of those people now, bringing back the center [Tyson Chandler] from that title team. Maybe he's got some chemistry religion recently.
"He's tripled his analytics staff. If he's equating analytics with not caring about chemistry, well, he's tripling down on it. I think he's smart to paint a competitor in a negative light, but none of those statements are lining up. He says that we're the team that you sign with and then we will trade you, when that's what he said he would've done with Dwight.
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These franchises have come to loathe each other. On the eve of training camp, the Rockets and Mavericks promise a season of downright disdain. Morey has tremendous respect for Cuban's intellect and accomplishments, readily accepting this: "He has a ring. I don't."
Nevertheless, Morey has grown disillusioned over how unchallenged Cuban's criticisms have been in the public discord. From the fact that Cuban contends Houston shuffles players in and out without regard to loyalty, that the Rockets are forever angling to recruit good players in pursuit of someone better, Morey wondered this: How did it differ from Dallas' model.
"We're no different than other teams," Morey told Yahoo Sports. "We have a core of two players – Dwight Howard and James Harden – who we are going to build around and never trade. San Antonio has had three core guys who they've done an unbelievable job of building around, making a lot of changes around that core. We had Tracy McGrady and Yao [Ming] and we made changes around them. And Mark's had a core of one [Nowitzki], who was there since before he bought the team."
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:24 pm to okietiger
quote:Cuban made the first comments.
Morey has probably made the better moves as of late, but that's kinda silly to go after a guy who just won a championship 4 years ago.
Morey just responded. And you left out a lot of Morey's responses...
From Woj's article:
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For months, Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban has unleashed a barrage of slights and snipes onto the Houston Rockets, framing the regime of general manager Daryl Morey in the most unflattering of ways. It has been an undermining, calculated campaign. Just understand this, though: No longer does it go unanswered.
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"We've been pretty good, and I think he's doing a smart thing to take on a rival," Morey told Yahoo Sports late Sunday. "He should want to beat up on San Antonio, too, but it's hard to paint the Spurs that way. So he's directed his bully pulpit onto us. Our owner stays above the fray, so I'm outgunned honestly.
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In Cuban's most recent baiting of the Rockets, he proclaimed that Morey had little regard for player chemistry, relying largely on the merits of math. Morey seethed over the premise and fired back to Yahoo Sports: "I completely reject it."
"Our teams have had great chemistry, and it's something we believe in. Hey, if Mark believed so much in chemistry, he wouldn't have busted up a title team for cap room. He's trying to reunite a lot of those people now, bringing back the center [Tyson Chandler] from that title team. Maybe he's got some chemistry religion recently.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:26 pm to PortCityTiger24
I'm not defending Morey, it just looks like you're saying Morey was talking shite and Cuban responded.
Here's the Wojo article from this morning for context. It's a good read.
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Here's the Wojo article from this morning for context. It's a good read.
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Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:27 pm to Boomshockalocka
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Mark Cuban vs Daryl Morey War of Words
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this is a battle that Cuban can't win
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Cuban on Daryl Morey's comments that if teams want to win a championship they need to go to Houston: "I'm not sure how he would know that."
He just won.
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Morey is on another level.
This much is true. Cuban has an NBA championship.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:28 pm to okietiger
quote:... there aren't any chemistry problems.
But anyone who's not a Houston-homer should have some questions regarding the chemistry of a team centered around Harden and Dwight.
People want it to be true, but it isn't.
Posted on 9/29/14 at 3:30 pm to TK421
quote:But really, they aren't both GMs. Morey is a GM. Cuban is an owner.
This much is true. Cuban has an NBA championship.
Not really an even comparison.
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