Why does the ruling class want Assad gone?

We have a winner on the gas pipeline. Ruling class wants Middle East natural gas to come into Europe through Syria and Turkey. Assad is friendly with Russia and Russia doesn't want competition with its natural gas sales so Assad doesn't want pipeline.

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We have a winter on the gas pipeline. Ruling class wants Middle East natural gas to come into Europe through Syria and Turkey. Assad is friendly with Russia and Russia doesn't want competition with its natural gas sales so Assad doesn't want pipeline.

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Also, Russia is very rich in natural gas, but not nearly as much so in oil. They need to make sure they have a reliable source for oil. By controlling the pipeline, Putin can keep his stranglehold on the gas supplies to Europe (where Russia has almost a complete monopoly on natural gas) while securing his domestic oil supplies. Russia needs that gas to keep its leverage over Europe economically, and it needs that oil to keep its leverage militarily. Without that oil, if Russia ever goes to war with Europe, she will run out of fuel for her tanks and aircraft fairly quickly. With these secure supplies, it would be much easier to supply a mobile army.

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So, basically our reason to go into Syria to fight ISIS is just a ruse?

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Obama and other European countries allied against Russia wanted Assad gone and begged for war. The American people didn't want another war for oil and gas so Obama hatched an Islamic militant ruse and made propaganda like crazy about it being a threat.

Assad doesn't want the USA in Syria, so he would in fact be opposed to Isis. Obama admin claimed Assad used chem weapons, which is completely untrue and one again, makes no sense because Assad doesn't want the usa having a reason to go to Syria.

It's all a big lie, Gulf of Tonkin 2.0, and the American people will swallow the propaganda eagerly.

Central banking.


Eta: same as Ukraine.

I can actually get behind disrutping the Russian pipeline if that's the case.

It is easier to get me motivated and patriotic about war when the coastal elites aren't trying to convince me that I should care if some jerks in New York feel safe from subway terrorist bomb.

Our interventionist plan in Syria has more to do with concerns over Russia than it does about ISIS or terrorist threats. A lot of Brit and American sources predicted this would happen sometime this year.

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3. He often supplies Hezbollah and backs them in fights against Israel.

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Iran > Syria > Lebanon is the backbone of the resistance to illegally besieged Gaza.

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2. He supports Putin and Iran

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Syria has always been close to Russia. Geographically and close in Spirit, the Christian Orthodoxy and Icons which Lenin & Stalin tried to replace and for which a Syriac strongman would never consider replacing.

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1. Pipeline, aka CA$H money, baby!

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And, finally, yes, the petrodollar.

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So, basically our reason to go into Syria to fight ISIS is just a ruse?

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Yes and no.

Assad's chemical weapon attack was actually a false flag by rebel groups (more likely with our help) who wanted to frame Assad for it to get American help overthrowing Assad. The American people balked and so the civil war has dragged on.

In an effort to win the hearts and minds of moderate Syrians, Assad quietly aided ISIS in fighting against rival, more moderate, rebel factions with the belief that the people of Syria would never rally behind ISIS if they were the last rebel group standing because Assad would look so much more moderate and tolerable by comparison. Assad assumed that once ISIS was the only strong rebel army standing, that he could mop them up with his military without issue, but now he's realizing that he simply can't do that. ISIS swinging into Iraq gave them so many more resources and recruits that Assad is struggling now to fend them off.

ISIS was doing our dirty work, forcing Iraq's government to be more inclusive, motivating the Kurds to seek more autonomy, weakening Iran's influence on the Middle East, and overthrowing a Shiite dictatorship all while we shook our fingers at them for being so brutal. Then, ISIS started threatening the Saudi Royals and beheading Americans and public sentiment went from "not my problem" to "kill it with fire!" The Saudis, who at first supported ISIS, now see that ISIS could very well invade them and topple them from power, but they're afraid to act because much of their population is sympathetic to ISIS. Now, the U.S. finds it stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do we support our enemy? Do we support the enemy of my enemy? Or do we support the enemy of my enemy of my enemy? In the end, money talks and bullshite walks. The Saudis have the money, so we're removing their threat.

Thank you very much. I'm busy at work right now but will read everything later.

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Man the rabbit hole is deep...

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all it took was an election to turn Obomber from war-protester to war-hawk.